Chasing the "franchise QB" in the draft is a good way to waste a ton of first rounders. I don't think we'll go that route.
I'm not certain. But Mariota would have been the 1st or 2nd quarterback drafted in this year's draft if he hadn't of went back to school and Winston may would have been the #1 overall pick if he was eligible for the draft this year. And like I asked Raven, if the Texans stink this year and we end up with one of those quarterbacks would you be upset...? Blake, Johnny, and Teddy haven't played a game so we don't know if the Texans made the right decision passing up on one of them _ yet. We may not even see any of them play until next year to find out.
I wanted the roll the dice on Johnny, but it didn't happen. I am very curious to see how he does. Got to give Fitz a chance, but he has had ten years to break into a starting lineup and hasn't done it. Why now?
He was Buffalo starting qb and they gave him a nice fat contract during his tenure there. He also started several games in Tennessee but it was due to their starter getting injured. . I thought we would have drafted Johnny Football but I guess he wasn't what BOB wanted.
I like the route they're going, it may not be super fun this first year, but I think Savage will be ready to go next year and I think BOB will be setting his guys up to be game managers that will limit mistakes and allow the rest of the team to win games. We'll go the route that Seattle and San Fran went, only hopefully we won't pay our game managers like they are Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers.
SEA kinda lucked up on Wilson, but props to them. Kapernick was 6 picks from being a 1st rounder and now they're currently paying him like he's Peyton and Rogers. I see what you're trying to say, but I believe your reasoning is more "I hate Manziel" based than anything else. And that's cool too. Harbaugh mostly kept the reigns on Colin during the regular season (pocket passer/game manager), then unleashed for the postseason.
Did you forget we had the #1 pick? SF didn't exactly fit your "plan" either. Kapernick was 4 picks from being a 1st rounder and he's getting paid handsomely.
#1 in the 2nd round puts him on par (ahead technically) of your "approved" SF plan. You predictably keep disregarding Colin's hefty contract as well.
I didn't disregard it, I said hopefully we don't make the same mistake they did in giving our game manager that kind of deal. Also, I still fail to see what you are hinting at. #1 in the second round was XSF who is a guard, not a QB.
It's doubtful most knowledgeable football fans or GMs would call Colin a game manager. He has shown and is capable of being a huge difference maker. The point about the 2nd round is you probably would still be upset with drafting a QB with the 33rd pick. And that's cool too. Of course any team would like to draft a QB in the later rounds with the talent of Wilson, it's just usually doesn't happen like that.
I disagree. He's been held to either the fewest, or second fewest pass attempts among starting QB's in the NFL every season of his career for a reason. He's a game manager with plus wheels....pretty much just a lesser version of Russel Wilson. As to spending a 2nd on a QB, I wouldn't be opposed to it, but I think the point is that you don't have to go nuts since you can make due with the Wilsons and Kaepernick's of the world, you don't need a traditional franchise QB to be successful.
He's been held to fewest attempts because their offense is run based... Wilson isn't far behind as SEA's is also heavily based off the run. Also, keep in mind QB rushing attempts don't count as passing. Let's be clear about your description of Colin... you just said he's "a game manager with plus wheels". Can we agree "game manager" means average? I already disagree his wheels are merely "plus", but I'll chill with that aspect. If a QB is "a manager with plus wheels" that at least puts him above average overall. No way anyone with sense can call Colin a simple game manager... unless there's an agenda. I wouldn't call Wilson a mere game manager either... his TD/INT rate is far too beastly. Whether either QB will turn out to be "great" is a different story. At day's end, every true Texans fan hopes Savage, Keenum, or whomever the QB succeeds.
I don't mean "average" when I say game manager, I mean that they aren't the type of QB who can succeed throwing the ball 45 times a game. QB's who rely on the run game and on only occasionally passing the ball, usually with safe routes. If you let Kap or Wilson throw the ball that much every game, they'd have 25 interceptions and kill the chances of your team winning. They might be able to pull it off once or twice, but you have to limit it if you want to be in a position to win.
If a QB can't succeed throwing it 45 or 35x/game they're not awesome passers. If they can throw it 25x, have "plus" wheels, and a nice TD/INT they're not merely game managers. Most experts consider Trent Dilfer a game manager. ... his wheels were far from plus (nowhere near Colin or Russell), his TD/INT was barely 1/1 his one season with BAL and you seriously are putting him in the same category as Kaepernick and Wilson. What agenda are you really on?
Why would I have an agenda? I'm not saying that it's a bad thing that they are game managers, in fact, going the game manager route has been fairly successful lately. They aren't the traditional pocket passing QB's but that doesn't mean they are worthless. They protect the ball and hand it off. They aren't your Peyton Manning/Aaron Rodgers types, but so long as it works, what does that matter? What's important is that you can get game manager types pretty easily which is what's important.
Fitzpatrick has never been a game manager. Don't think OB can change his leapord spots. Not like hes some young QB that needs a little grooming. He takes risk or forces lots of plays. Maybe it works out like his first year in BUF but I doubt it. He's going to sling the rock, may result in some great plays, but bad ones as well. I also don't see how people are so high on Savage but down on just about every other QB in the draft. But somehow Savage is going to make leaps and bound and will be ready to go next year. What makes people feel so confident? Its more likely hes at best, Fitzpatrick/TJ Yates level than he is a Tom Brady.
