I understand full field offsides. But what is the point of offsides once the ball advances past midfield. I always find it strange when a team is clearly in a scoring position, no cherry picking involved, yet gets called for offsides. It would seem the offsides rule should only apply until a ball is advanced to a certain point.
I think offsides is a perfectly fine rule. But just for the sake of argument, I am going to disagree with the notion this would turn it into a cherry-picking game of hail mary passes. Long ball would become more of a threat, but not necessarily occur much more than usual. The game would adjust. There would still be heavy emphasis on advancing the ball straight up the middle with dribblers. This would force the backline defense to commit to leaving the cherry-picker or staying at home. Imagine Basketball with a longer court and 7 players on each side, so cherry-picking becomes viable. Would it increase long outlet passes, when both sides have enough players to defend long balls. The dribbler would still advance the ball, until someone stops his dribble. Soccer would then evolve into 4-5 defenders just staying down near the box at all times, like Lacrosse, which has no offsides except for limiting the number of players on either side of the field at one point. (maybe The offense and defense would turn into a Lacrosse game). I don't think all teams would cherry pick. I think many if not most would just move the defense further back, and overall, still attack the same way.. So the middle of the field gets diluted...and less action happens there...like Basketball and Lacrosse I think no Offside actually turns Soccer into a halfcourt game. but this is all just theory based on other non-stop sports. btw: cherry picking is not a problem in Ultimate Frisbee, but that might be due the fact the Ultimate only has 7 players per side (so you can't afford to waste a player like that anymore than you could in Basketball), and frisbees flies slower, so "long balls" can be run down easier.
"You ever see a group of white people playing ultimate frisbee and think 'how did they enslave people?'"
I used the "No offside" option while playing FIFA 14 video game and yeah the goal-scoring increases. I also wonder what if the sport doesn't use the penalty kick shootout anymore and instead use whoever scores first wins the game like what NHL hockey uses in the Stanley Cup playoffs.
You are supposed to beat the opponent with skill on moving the ball from one point of the field to the other, or at least to attempt to play with your skills to put the ball into the opponent's net. OFFSIDE is gaining a position of advantage, and it is being closer to the goal than the ball and the second-to-last defender in an attack towards the goal. It is also interfering with the goalie or last defender. (During the World Cup, you will see the proven offside rule with technology at the point of the pass towards the goal.) If you're in an offside position, but not interfering in the play, you're not penalized. If you're in an offside position, but you're on your own side of the field, you're not penalized. Again, you must beat the opponent with skill, not with any advantage. SPEED, SKILL, and INTELLIGENCE are not advantages, they're perfected. This is why if you start your run from further than the second-to-last defender and beat him to the ball which is closer, you're not offside. The line judge is ALWAYS lined up with the second-to-last defender's distance to the goal so he can see if an attacker is closer, whether it be the goalkeeper or a defense man. I am happy to try to explain this to help people understand why this rule is needed. Read the LAWS OF THE GAME.
Maybe they can do what they do in Hockey and add a blue line. One can't enter the attack zone until the puck/ball crosses that line.
ok here a weird scenario, using football as an example, that would increase scoring in the NFL. why the WR cannot start running until the ball snapped, the WR should start running when the both teams are set, that way the WR can get faster to the 1st down, in this scenario the CB and the safety can start running with the WR, when this player move, so you got a defender with him all game. The offside is completely fine, it would be more boring seeing a player just camping over the goal.
Offsides in hockey makes no sense to me whatsoever. The defending team could have all of their players in front of the goal, but if one of the other team's players goes past the blue line before the puck, that's a penalty? Seems dumb. Icing is stupid, too.
so, he starts five yards back and starts running forward to cross the line of scrimmage at the moment of the snap? Well, then expect to see Linebackers start running at the same time he does and hit the line running at the QB. btw: if the WR is running, the CB is going to time knocking his ass to the ground, too. You can't really juke out a CB when you are running right at him. He will give you only one side, and plow you to the dirt when you hit the line.
yeah I made a dumb example, to explain how dumb it looks when someone wants to change a rule in other sport, just because they want to increase scoring.
And my answer was an example of showing how even dumb examples (or your fake one) that seem like they can increase scoring, probably actually won't. I bet eliminating offside may decrease scoring, due to offenses being forced to leaving too many players on the defenses side of the field,,,which is part of the point SwoLy-D made, too. Offside actually helps the offense. Now, if we let the players use their hands and run with the ball, and allow the defense to tackle, but you also keep the ball pretty round to keep kicking in the game and erect some type of elevated goal to allow scoring via kicks into that....and allow passing But, only allow passing backwards And to get rid of flopping, if anyone loses the ball there is an immediate fight for it will all players having to get on their side of the field lined-up on an imaginary scrimmage line to fight and scramble for the ball. I bet that would make for a higher scoring form of football.
They tried the golden goal rule in overtime before but teams where too scared to commit players to the attack so it ended up with both teams bunkering to make sure they didn't give up a goal.
There is no such thing as "OFFSIDES" you are in an offside position or not, there is no "S" in offside. And I think the rules should be modified, no offside on corners or Free kicks...would be a good start. DD
Good try, ReyChita, but: Correct on the "S" missing in football. AND, if you can't have offside on free kicks, everyone would line up at the goal line and cover the goalkeeper. Not good.
okay, we've discussed this before. If someone's shoulder is offside, but their feet isn't, I fail to see how an advantage is gained. You won't get to the ball any quicker, unless you run on your head.
I think that whenever that was put into the rule, it was because it was understood that as your shoulder goes, so does your body's intention. So... you couldn't walk away from the goal and your shoulder is closer to the goal... No one runs on their head, man. Haha. Don't know if SRS.
