Agreed, you need those trully great players like Robben and Van persie (Bergkamp Van basten, Gullit). I cannot wai to see who that will be next. Ace are you in the Netherlands since you are watching Dutch broadcasts?
I took the rant a bit too far. Now that I have calmed myself I still strongly feel the last foul should not be called. It was not clear at all. Yeah I agree with you, Marquez made a bad decision because the ball got too far off Robben, the other defender would have controlled the ball. I do not know why but I feel half of the refs in general are still bad. Some of the refs try to take over games in critical situations in extra time that I cannot endorse. Sorry to feel that way. Yeah the Eagle eye goal system works but there should be a screen somewhere where they can review the situation (much like in the NBA). It is not a penalty because it wasn't a penalty. It was clearly a dive. The ref just took the bait. Robben himself admitted he dived because he did not get the first call by the end of the 1st half. It was a lot like the Greece foul against Ivory Coast with a lot less contact. Both Marquez and the ref did make a mistake. The ref is an organ of power , Marquez is not. So if you somehow abuse the power to be partial in that situation clearly you draw the hate of all Mexicans. Rightfully so. I would have been ok with the penalty if it played out like the Greece one. It looked at least like one albeit questionable.... go through slow motion and you will see. That said I can put that decision behind me.... but the ref problem is a very bad one at this tournament
If you watch slow motion or watch one still picture after another you will see that Marquez slightly touched his little toe which the ref could not have seen. Robben flailed with his arms as he were struck by a lightning bolt lmao. It was theatrical in every way. Some BAF, Independent Spirit Award, Cannes, Berlinale and probably Academy Award nomination worthy.
"I must apologise," he told NOS. "The one [at the end] was a penalty, but the other one was a dive in the first half. I shouldn't be doing that." Robben admitted to one in the first half but said the one at the end was a penalty. Watch France-Nigeria today. The best referee at this tournament so far...an American. Could be the best chance to have an American in the World Cup Final.
Which one. That he admitted he dove or that it was not a foul? I respect your opinion if you thought otherwise but even commentators on Television broke it down with ref help said it was highly doubtful. Marquez did not have to stretch out his leg but it was minimal contact at best.
Dude, what are you talking about? He didn't admit that the penalty was a dive. That's 100% incorrect. I'm not arguing about whether it was a dive or not, I am arguing about his admission of the fact. So before you start slamming me, try some reading comprehension or asking a question before jumping to conclusions - like daywalker02, who actually could have jumped all over me as I didn't explain myself properly in the initial reply.
I agree any american fan making fun of Mexico right now is being dumb, just pointing out that they have a history of being good and should have better results in world cups. I don't think any Mexico fan who's followed the team all these years would disagree. They had had some tough round of 16 matchups but with Mexico's history they should have won at least 1 or 2 of those. Who sucks at something? The US at soccer? Because advancing 4 out of the past 6 world cups isn't sucking. Obviously our team isn't a world power or anything but far from sucking. Now for the dark ages 1950-1990, yes we sucked.
Hey man, sorry - should have expanded. Basically the interview was in Dutch and the international media did not translate it properly. The KNVB has even released an official statement (see this article in Dutch: http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/wk-voetbal-2014/22800859/__Statement_KNVB_over_Robben__.html) about it, as it's obviously caused quite the fiasco. Robben essentially says: First half foul: clear penalty Penalty foul: It was a foul, penalty I did dive in the first half (before the penalty one, the double foul), I apologise - - the ref didn't call that one
Then he is a hypocrite to say the least. Because if you watch slow motion again, he was clearly hit by Marquez foot and then that other guy Moreno came tackling, broke his leg in that situation. You don't call that a situation? Let us put this behind us. Ok? The Mexicans won't be back. I am just thinking Overtime would be fair to both of the teams. In the wake of Suarez incident, FIFA refs are making one mistake after another. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/wo...ne-Mexicos-defeat-World-Cup-second-round.html Look at the photos pls.
He dude - yeah, he wasn't talking about that incident. For that one (the double foul you're talking about) he says "If THAT'S not a penalty, then I don't know anymore". The one where he admits he did dive, was before - - maybe a reason why the ref didn't call the subsequent foul?
Hey breh, nothing against KNVB but if you want the world to see that Dutch football is the best in the world. A) You do not want to advance because of a situation like this, you want to score goals like the Sneijder one. Pure goals B) You do not want to kick players like De Jong did to Alonso. If you think it is a foul, it is fine. Well, we have to agree to disagree.
Hey man - sorry I don't think you get what I am trying to say. Basically the translation of Robben's admission is completely wrong - that's what the KNVB released a statement about. I'm not arguing (in this case) whether it was a foul or not - just about Robben's actual quotes, which are currently wrong in most international media outlets (just watch the video in Dutch).
Then let me ask you what was in the 94th minute? Was it a foul? A dive? Or not clear? This is not the first decisive, monumental call made by a ref this tournament. I just want to enjoy games, but it gets tainted by all these refs, flopping. It sometimes isn't fun anymore. That's all.
I did not think it was a penalty. Could he give him. Sure. But i do not think it was a penalty. Like i said, in the first half he should have gotten a penalty. so overal that evens out.
