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[Official] Rockets decline option on Troy Daniels (and Parsons)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by justtxyank, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. dobro1229

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    This is getting just plain silly. I'm all but certain now that Casspi, & Covington will probably be waived (& possibly resigned).

    The big unknowns are Canaan & D-Mo.

    I'm assuming that D-Mo will probably be part of either the Asik & Lin trades. Canaan, he showed some promise last year. I can't see them wanting to get rid of him because of the minor salary he accounts for.

    All I know is next week the Rockets are probably going to look like a completely different team other than Howard and & Harden, and Harden's future isn't even 100% (albeit close to 99%).
     
  2. Nook

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    Wishful thinking.

    Morey doesn't have anything lined up, or there wouldn't be plan B,C,D,E and so one down the line.

    Morey is looking at what is available, and knows that he has to put his team in a position to pounce if necessary.

    Essentially there is a series of long shots (Anthony/Love/Lowry) and Morey is just hoping to hit on one of them... but it will be harder than it has been the last 2 off seasons because teams are following the Rockets/Heat lead and try to hook a big fish.
     
  3. finsraider

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    I can't imagine that the difference between getting Melo and not getting Melo is $300k.

    Just weird. If Morey is trying to conceal his true plan, he's doing a great job of it.
     
  4. mikol13

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    Hmm.

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    Yes, that's the qualifying offer. But the qualifying offer can be withdrawn and simply a cap hold left without renouncing the player until July 23rd. I think that cap hold is simply 120% of last year's salary. The question is whether that is 120% of the minimum salary or his actual salary from last season.
     
  6. Nook

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    The Rockets land Anthony (not happening) or trade for Love, I think they would absolutely match Parsons offer of near max money.
     
  7. Haymitch

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    To the person who repped me with this:

    First, thanks for the rep. Second, that is a good point.

    BUT I'd rather sign him for ~$10 than ~$14 for two reasons (and I'm not even sure these are valid so feel free to disagree).

    1) I'm assuming that the more we are over the cap the more the tax is, ie, it's cumulative. If that's the case, then I'd think Les would be more willing to be over the cap for more years if each year the tax wasn't so crippling.

    2) In the highly unlikely event that after we acquire a third star and we then decide to trade away one of the three (for whatever reason), then it will no longer be a given that we'll be over the cap. So again in that scenario I'd rather have Parsons at ~$10 than ~$14.
     
  8. finsraider

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    This just doesn't make any sense. He's signed to a dirt cheap deal. He can't be a RFA until next year.

    The only thing I can think of is we could offer him the Room exception ($2.7 million over 2 years, total of over $5 million) if we choose to use our cap space.
     
  9. Joe Joe

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    Rockets can offer him part of room exception or portion of MLE depending Rockets stay over or drop under the cap.
     
  10. Smook

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    I really hope we keep resign both. Parsons needs no explanation... I mean c'mon... and I just love Daniels' 3 point shooting. I think he can bring a spark off the bench next season.
     
  11. Commodore

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    Morey not messing around, pinching every single possible penny of cap space
     
  12. Fullcourt

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    I'd really like a plausible explanation as to why we declined Daniels' option. Bima? Anyone?
     
  13. crash5179

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    I would like to get verification from Bima, but I believe the Rockets can simply negotiate and reach an agreement with both Parsons & Daniels in principal. They can also negotiate and reach an agreement with a 3rd star in principal as if Parsons and Daniels have been renounced but do the following simultaneously:

    1. renounce them as RFA's to clear maximum possible cap room for 3rd star
    2. sign there 3rd star to a contract
    3. resign Parsons and Daniels to their previously agreed upon contract

    All simultaneously as soon as the moratorium ends.

    The one complication is that the Rockets will not have Daniels bird rights so they will not be able to exceed the salary cap with out using a salary cap exception like the MLE. I would think that the Rockets would want to get Daniels on a 4 year contract similar to Parsons and they can not do that using the bi-annual, minimum salary or room exceptions since they are 2 year contracts at max.
     
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    Good job dude.
     
  15. rocketpower2

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    Makes sense. If we can offer Carmelo somewhere around $19MM per year I see it hard for him to turn it down versus a likely $16MM a year from Chicago.
     
  16. meh

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    True. I think I'm mostly dismissing these things because I don't think teams will be lining up to sign Daniels in the first place. We like him, but if he could've had more than a minimum contract elsewhere last year, he'd have signed elsewhere. I really think people are overestimating his value around the NBA.
     
  17. Jpripper88

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    Gotcha. That could make sense. Not sure of another way of calculating that other than the 120%.
     
  18. crash5179

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    I'll just point out two things: 1. He had a really nice play-off performance against Portland that got some national exposure after he signed his minimum deal contract. 2. It only takes one GM to think he is getting a diamond in the rough if he signs Daniels to really force Daryl Morey into a financial decision.

    Having said that, I don't think his play-off performance is necessarily enough to convince other GM's to give him any type of sizable contract. If there had been a couple of months of play in the regular season to back that up then I might think so.
     
  19. today

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    Maybe they figure they can get Daniels on a really cheap multi-year deal now, but if they wait until after next season they might have to pay two to three times as much depending upon his performance.
     
  20. Joe Joe

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    While I don't think Daniels gets a big contract, I think he can now negotiate a deal above the minimum. My guess would be makes more than qualifying offer of 1 million (he'd just sign QO if he thought he wasn't getting more) and less than 1.5 million. If the Rockets drop below the cap, there isn't much of the room exception to go around.
     

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