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As Carmelo Anthony leans toward leaving New York, Chicago and Houston emerge as frontrunners

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by t0mdotcom, Jun 14, 2014.

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vstexas09 Member

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Does Dougie affect Melo's chances for Chicago?

#1261 vstexas09, Jun 26, 2014

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Back to the top. The Lebron dream is coming to an end. Let's talk more about Melo now.

#1262 sergio, Jun 26, 2014
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Yeah, hopefully we can get Melo. If we miss out on him, then I like that the Love trade isn't going down before free agency, we will make a run at him. Then Lowry.

#1263 mfastx, Jun 26, 2014
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Melo just tweeted that he loves Jalen 's Red tie .

#1264 bratna8, Jun 26, 2014
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Melo just tweeted that he loves Jalen's Red tie .
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Lol it's the little things.

#1265 Cstyle42, Jun 26, 2014
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bratna8 said: ↑

Melo just tweeted that he loves Jalen 's Red tie .
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Tell me when he adds a barber from Houston to his Twitter. That's the information that I'm waiting for.

#1266 JayGoogle, Jun 26, 2014
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Bulls are red too guys..

#1267 mfastx, Jun 26, 2014

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mfastx said: ↑

Bulls are red too guys..
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Rockets are "Red Nation" brah

#1268 davidio840, Jun 26, 2014
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bratna8 said: ↑

Melo just tweeted that he loves Jalen 's Red tie .
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Nobody appreciates a red tie like the Rockets ...

#1269 Dr of Dunk, Jun 26, 2014
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Not sure about cap implications but won't the Bulls have to pay more for McDermott and Anthony Randolph than they would have with their prior first rounders?

#1270 JVL713, Jun 26, 2014
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Bulls drop bozer and sign melo we git $h!t .....

#1271 HPD, Jun 27, 2014
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Not sure about cap implications but won't the Bulls have to pay more for McDermott and Anthony Randolph than they would have with their prior first rounders?
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Yep.

Bulls now need to...

Amnesty Boozer
Trade Dunleavy, Randolph, Snell and Smith
Waive James, Amundson and Brewer

That leaves them with
Rose - 18.8 million
Noah - 12.2 million
Gibson - 8 million
Butler - 2 million
McDermott - 1.9 million

Adding up to 42.9 million in salary, add 3 million for minimum roster cap holds and they have roughly 46 million in salary, only enough to give Anthony a deal for 4 years/73 million. Which is almost to low of a pay cut for Carmelo to take, but the Bulls can't really afford to get rid of anybody else.

They would have to either get rid of either Butler or McDermott to make him a 4 year/80 million offer.

Mean while the rockets have to
Trade Lin and Motiejunas
Waive Casspi, Covington, Powell and have Garcia opt out

Then the Rockets could offer Anthony 4 years 84 million

To pair him up with

Howard
Harden
Parsons
Beverley
Jones
Daniels
Canaan
Johnson
Gentile

#1272 ThatBoyNick, Jun 27, 2014

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sergio said: ↑

Back to the top. The Lebron dream is coming to an end. Let's talk more about Melo now.
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How so?

#1273 aurocketfan, Jun 27, 2014

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aurocketfan said: ↑

How so?
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He's probably one of those that think the Heat getting Napier means he is a 100% lock to stay...

#1274 Drift Monkey, Jun 27, 2014
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It appears the Heat are targeting Lowry (IF Wade & Bosh take big enough salary cuts). If we miss on Melo then we will be competing with Miami & Toronto for Lowry. We should be able to top Miami or match Toronto if it comes to that. Lowry is talking alot about winning a championship.

#1275 micah1j, Jun 27, 2014
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ThatBoyNick said: ↑

Yep.

Bulls now need to...

Amnesty Boozer
Trade Dunleavy, Randolph, Snell and Smith
Waive James, Amundson and Brewer

That leaves them with
Rose - 18.8 million
Noah - 12.2 million
Gibson - 8 million
Butler - 2 million
McDermott - 1.9 million

Adding up to 42.9 million in salary, add 3 million for minimum roster cap holds and they have roughly 46 million in salary, only enough to give Anthony a deal for 4 years/73 million. Which is almost to low of a pay cut for Carmelo to take, but the Bulls can't really afford to get rid of anybody else.

They would have to either get rid of either Butler or McDermott to make him a 4 year/80 million offer.

Mean while the rockets have to
Trade Lin and Motiejunas
Waive Casspi, Covington, Powell and have Garcia opt out

Then the Rockets could offer Anthony 4 years 84 million

To pair him up with

Howard
Harden
Parsons
Beverley
Jones
Daniels
Canaan
Johnson
Gentile
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nice, thanks for this. looking like houston can offer him the most money besides NYK

#1276 Angkor Wat, Jun 27, 2014
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ThatBoyNick said: ↑

Yep.

Bulls now need to...

Amnesty Boozer
Trade Dunleavy, Randolph, Snell and Smith
Waive James, Amundson and Brewer

That leaves them with
Rose - 18.8 million
Noah - 12.2 million
Gibson - 8 million
Butler - 2 million
McDermott - 1.9 million

Adding up to 42.9 million in salary, add 3 million for minimum roster cap holds and they have roughly 46 million in salary, only enough to give Anthony a deal for 4 years/73 million. Which is almost to low of a pay cut for Carmelo to take, but the Bulls can't really afford to get rid of anybody else.

They would have to either get rid of either Butler or McDermott to make him a 4 year/80 million offer.

Mean while the rockets have to
Trade Lin and Motiejunas
Waive Casspi, Covington, Powell and have Garcia opt out

Then the Rockets could offer Anthony 4 years 84 million

To pair him up with

Howard
Harden
Parsons
Beverley
Jones
Daniels
Canaan
Johnson
Gentile

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So, in essence..

Chicago (assuming they jettison who they need to):
Rose
Butler
Anthony / McDermott
Gibson
Noah

Houston (assuming they trade Lin and others)
Bev / Johnson
Harden / Daniels
Parsons
Anthony / Jones
Howard

Would Chicago be able to use their MLE? BAE? Vet Min? What about us?

#1277 Firebomb525, Jun 27, 2014
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ThatBoyNick said: ↑

Yep.

Bulls now need to...

Amnesty Boozer
Trade Dunleavy, Randolph, Snell and Smith
Waive James, Amundson and Brewer

That leaves them with
Rose - 18.8 million
Noah - 12.2 million
Gibson - 8 million
Butler - 2 million
McDermott - 1.9 million

Adding up to 42.9 million in salary, add 3 million for minimum roster cap holds and they have roughly 46 million in salary, only enough to give Anthony a deal for 4 years/73 million. Which is almost to low of a pay cut for Carmelo to take, but the Bulls can't really afford to get rid of anybody else.

They would have to either get rid of either Butler or McDermott to make him a 4 year/80 million offer.

Mean while the rockets have to
Trade Lin and Motiejunas
Waive Casspi, Covington, Powell and have Garcia opt out

Then the Rockets could offer Anthony 4 years 84 million

To pair him up with

Howard
Harden
Parsons
Beverley
Jones
Daniels
Canaan
Johnson
Gentile
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Tax free as well.

#1278 Da_Spark, Jun 27, 2014

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Bulls trade up in draft to net Doug McDermott

By K.C. Johnson, Chicago Tribune reporter
12:02 am, June 27, 2014

On the sixth anniversary of selecting Derrick Rose, the Bulls didn’t have the No. 1 pick in Thursday’s NBA draft.

But they own a No. 1 target. And he was drafted third overall 11 years ago.

Everything the Bulls do these days has free-agent-to-be Carmelo Anthony in the background, and that includes their acquisition of NCAA national player of the year Doug McDermott.

In the last draft night at the soon-to-be-vacated Berto Center, the Bulls packaged picks 16 and 19 and a 2015 second-round pick for the rights to McDermott, whom they had scouted heavily and the Nuggets drafted with the 11th pick. Though the two-for-one move only saved the Bulls about $329,000, it could make Mike Dunleavy and his expiring $3.3 million deal expendable.

The Bulls also absorbed Anthony Randolph's expiring $1.825 million deal, which general manager Gar Forman said the Nuggets demanded be included, into a trade exception the Luol Deng deal created. That added salary but spoke to how much the Bulls coveted McDermott, who averaged 26.7 points his senior season at Creighton.

As a four-year player, McDermott fits the draft profile of experience that Forman and top basketball executive John Paxson favor. McDermott shot 45.8 percent from 3-point range.

"What excites us about Doug is we feel he's more than a shooter," Forman said. "He's a guy who is crafty with the ball, can create his own shot, can go in the post some, has a quick release whether it's from the perimeter or outside."

Coach Tom Thibodeau worked with McDermott last summer with USA Basketball.

"If you view him as strictly a shooter, you're not casting the proper light on him," Thibodeau said. "He's a lot more than that. We think he's a complete player. We think he's capable of playing very good defense."

McDermott even attended a Bulls-Wizards playoff game. And he hails from Ames, Iowa, home to the same Iowa State that once employed Forman and former Bulls coach Tim Floyd.

"I knew watching that game that I was the perfect fit for them," McDermott said. "I think I can bring so much. With D-Rose coming back, I can play off him so well because he draws so much attention."

McDermott already has the college connection with fellow Creighton product and former Bull Kyle Korver, whom he joked he outjumped in the vertical test at the combine.

In the second round, the Bulls added power forward Cameron Bairstow, who played with Tony Snell at New Mexico, with the 49th pick.

And now the focus shifts to free agency. The Bulls would have only $11 million to 12 million of salary-cap space if they use the amnesty provision on Carlos Boozer, so additional moves would have to be made to gain Anthony, whom the Rockets, Mavericks and Lakers also covet.

Randolph can be traded individually but not in a multi-player deal.

Speaking to reporters in New York before the draft about his six-player trade with the Mavericks on Wednesday, Knicks President Phil Jackson reiterated he "challenged" Anthony to take less money to give the Knicks the ability to sign other players. Perhaps most tellingly, Jackson wouldn't comment when asked if he would consider a sign-and-trade for the All-Star forward.

The trade changed the Knicks' financial picture for this summer and next. That could open them to sign-and-trade possibilities they previously might not have considered if Anthony is set to leave. If those include Boozer, that's the Bulls' dream scenario, although Jackson has shown no interest yet.

Acquiring Anthony via a sign-and-trade would keep the Bulls above the cap and allow them to use exceptions to add more pieces like possibly Nikola Mirotic or D.J. Augustin. But there are, obviously, no guarantees Anthony will leave the Knicks, who still can pay him more than any other team.

"We don't have near the type of cap room we had in 2010," Forman said. "We're going to have to be creative."

That the Bulls didn't top the small price the Nuggets paid earlier in the day for Arron Afflalo means they liked McDermott better, have bigger plans down the road — or both.

Doug McDermott, 6-8, 218, SF, Creighton

As a four-year player, he fits the mold of players this management typically drafts. Coached by his father, Greg, at Creighton, which also produced former Bull Kyle Korver, McDermott averaged 26.7 points while winning National Player of the Year honors as a senior. He's considered a poor defender. But scouts say he's more than a shooter and can score a variety of ways. He's one of only three players in NCAA history with 3,000 points and 1,000 rebounds in a career. His 135 games in double figures is also an NCAA record.
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#1279 Fullcourt, Jun 27, 2014
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not to be a downer, but i thought carmelo coming here would be a reality, but it seems more likely that he's going to chicago.

man, i don't want to leave this offseason without some name..

hopefully, by divine intervention, it's love

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