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Agent to Heat: LeBron James opting out

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Camarograna2, Jun 24, 2014.

  1. anthony1604

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    Bruh honestly IMO I don't see us getting ANY star...were gonna be left with nothing and have a sorry bench as usual
     
  2. Castor27

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    The more I think about this the more I laugh. Miami is going to get a guy that wants 10 mil in Lowry, a guy that is opting out to get a max deal in Melo and keep James and Wade (who would have to give up a load of money) and all they lose is Bosh? I take back my previous post, Bucher isn't on some good drugs, he's coked out of his mind.
     
  3. ThatBoyNick

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    I have absolutely no idea why Raptors, a eastern conference team would even think for the slightest of a second to facilitate the making of a gigantic 4 by S&T Lowry to the Heat.

    What is the idea? Wade and Bosh opt out, Haslem and Andersen decline player options, Cole is traded, waive Hamilton, then Miami signs...

    Lebron for 80 million/4 years
    Melo for 80 million/4 years
    Wade for 56 million/4 years
    Lowry for 36 million/4 years

    All are unrestricted free agents, I guess it could actually work.

    Yikes, I think I would give up on life if that team assembled.
     
  4. The_Yoyo

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    I highly doubt lowry takes a deal under 10 million /year - the guy was underpaid his entire career and now has national recognition for once for his efforts.

    even if the above happens

    it would mean that

    between the 4 players they would account for 63 million of whats projected to be about a 60-65 million dollar cap.

    the heat would have little to no money to spend on other free agents -- UNLESS they sign wade and lebron last using bird rights and immediately send the Heat into salary cap hell and with the crazy repeater tax - Arison made several cost cutting moves just to avoid a hefty tax I doubt he would go all out and spend that much money on the team - not to mention if Toronto does entertain a sign an trade with the Heat (which they do not have to do at all) they will try to take at least 1 first round pick away from the heat.

    Lowry is a free agent he doesnt need a sign and and trade to come to Miami - Miami would just rather get rid of cole's contract and have it absorbed into whatever Lowry could get paid by them.


    but of course all this is really moot since Bucher has been really unreliable of late (probably why he was let go from ESPN) and has been more than transparent with his GS bias.

    He is just reaching here for attention
     
  5. iJHolmes

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    lol so according to him they're just gonna drop bosh?
     
  6. ThatBoyNick

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    Well I'm sure if it means so much to Lowry that Wade would sign for 52 million and Lowry could sign for 40 million. I could definitely see Lowry taking under 10 million because signing with that team would most likely make him a instant multi nba champion, and with that comes endorsements etc.

    It would be like 2010 all over again except this time they would have a 4th player in Lowry, they would have to sign a bunch of players to the vet minimum to fill out the roster, which of course vets will line up to sign for since they're signing for instant championship rings. I could most of their bench returning too (Allen, Douglas, Andersen, Jones) returning on freshly signed vet minimums and Haslem with his bird rights. Add Kaman and or J.Oneal with vet minimum and they're good to go basically.

    Lowry/Napier/Douglas
    Wade/Allen
    Carmelo/Lebron/Jones
    Lebron/Haslem
    Andersen/Kaman,O'Neal

    That team is pretty terrifying. All i'd have to say if that happens is #Durant2Houston2016
     
  7. Drift Monkey

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    Lol @ Napier sealing LeBron in Miami. Get a grip. Still waiting for dat Wade opt in.
     
  8. Spacemoth

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    Bosh was not the problem in that Big Three. If you're a Rocket fan, you know exactly who to attack during our meeting with Lebron.

    Friendship is nice and all, but this is his legacy we're talking about here. Is he going to sacrifice championships just to let Wade max out the remaining dollars on his career? That's what it has to come down to.
     
  9. Cannonball

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    According to him, Bosh is going to opt out of his contract and return to Toronto. Some think that he can still get a max contract elsewhere. I don't know. Maybe he can get his money but I don't think he's that type of player anymore. You also have to question a little why he'd opt out, but it's not guaranteed that Lebron would return and maybe he's afraid of committing himself to Miami only to have Lebron go somewhere else.
     
  10. Cstyle42

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    Lol he isn't even saying Bosh is going to L.A. or Houston... just going back to Toronto huh.
     
  11. J.R.

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    So either the media overstated how much of a "lock" it was LeBron stays or they're overstating how much of a difference the 24th pick makes in keeping LeBron. Which is it?

    ...

    Brian Windhorst:

    Did LeBron like Napier and pressure Riley?

    This was a perfect Riley pick. Riley doesn't like young players; instead players who played awhile in college. This pick makes sense even if LeBron was under contract. It was a home run. The Heat were my winners in this draft. They picked a guy that helped them retain LeBron James.

    Monday is opt in/out day.

    I think they'll opt out. Every four years Wade, James and Bosh are on the same page, even when they were on different teams. I think they'll get on the same page and opt out. For Bosh, there's a possibility he can be on the trade market. If he opts out, they can't trade him then. The question is, what are they going to do with their annual salary? If they stay in their deals, no flexibility. Everyone benefits from opting out and I think you'll see it happen.

    Lowry and 'Melo big four? Lowry?

    Several teams interested in Lowry. Lakers, Raptors,...going to the Heat, he has to take below market value. He hasn't had his big contract yet. This is the pay day of his life. Difficult for him. Heat will try. Sleeper team? Atlanta Hawks. Too much competition for the Heat.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Riley did what he needed 2 do last night. Next: assuring Bosh &amp; Wade that if they play ball w/extensions, he can get someone who's worth it.</p>&mdash; Ethan J. Skolnick (@EthanJSkolnick) <a href="https://twitter.com/EthanJSkolnick/statuses/482548833826525185">June 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  12. Deuce

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    Thing is with Napier, as a "player" I am not sure how much he will help him. But as a "sign to LeBron that Riley is trying to improve the team" that is just 1 item in the win column for LeBron.

    Riley doesn't have many avenues to help the team "really quickly." Getting Napier was one of them.

    Can Riley convince the other Big 3 to take paycuts AND get a top FA there in the next 2 weeks? Very small window. So it is tough. Riley clearly will have to outline a PLAN and then execute it.
     
  13. Deuce

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    Lowry appears to be the key piece for Riley. I like that Windhorst felt the competition of Lowry's services will be tough in terms of pricing out the Heat.
     
  14. TexasRedd

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    Wade and Bosh will opt out. Just wait a few days. This LeBron stuff is a pipe dream. I just hope the Rockets are smart enough to see it.
     
  15. professorjay

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    People keep bringing this up. Where was it reported that Lebron would stay if they got Napier? The only thing I've seen is he's been a big fan of him. Who's jumping to this conclusion and why would anyone believe that anyways?

    At most this is part 1 in the 'get Lebron to stay' plan.
     
  16. The_Yoyo

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    I dont know how much of a cut Wade would be willing to take

    Again the 10 million for lowry I feel could be at the low end

    I mean Ty Lawson got 4 years 48 million - Tyreke Evans got 4/44

    and I think Lowry is better than both of them - remember Lowry's last contract was 24 million over 4 years -- Lowry is coming off of his finest season - a season where many felt he was the biggest all-star snub in the east -- he is going to look to get the biggest contract he can right now since it will probably be the best chance for him to make the money he was due previously.

    I would probably see Lowry ask for 4/48 much like Lawson

    At that point it would mean Wade would need to take a smaller contract - like a 4/48 himself -- at that point why should he basically sign a 2 year 6 million dollar extension? because thats what he would be doing -- leaving 2/42 million on the table for 4 years 48 million.

    Now if Riley is able to move Cole as part of the Lowry trade the Wade could in theory sign 4/56 million but that is going to put them in lux tax hell real quick and give up future picks -- again how soon until Arison cuts the roster again?
     
  17. ArtV

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    ok I'm getting the strong feeling Lebron is staying. I'd say Melo is 50/50 (Bulls/Rockets). Love is 25% (Bulls/Rockets/Celtics/Warriors). Last nights picks were for Lebron or Melo. I'm not saying to give up on Lebron but we better have a strong pitch for Melo or we will be looking at a stripped down roster and a cry of wait till next year...again...
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    Again, that doesn't make sense. Wade can't make 42 mil for the entire rest of his career if he opts out of the 2 year 42 mil contract.....I have yet to hear a legitimate reason why he'd do that.
     
  19. Deuce

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    It is really all or nothing THIS summer. Rockets won't have cap room next summer because Chandler Parsons will be paid. UNLESS they don't make him a RFA and pick up his option at the last minute. But that will mean he will be a UFA next summer and then all bets are off.
     
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  20. ArtV

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    I agree that it's all or nothing because of Parsons soon to be (and deserved) pay day. So I'm behind last nights picks and I'm behind making the push. I just don't have the same optimism that I had yesterday. Time to up my meds...
     

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