I Am O K With That People act like he's the 2nd coming of basketball jesus around here. If you combine his rookie year defense with his current offense, maybe you put his value higher up, but he's not even an allstar. What gives? He's also been using the number 2 quite a bit. 4 and 2. I wonder who wears that number? There's no doubt in my mind that Doc Rocket is a fan of the Rockets. He gets fans thinking about the Rockets even in the offseason. He helps this franchise more in the offseason and trade deadlines than any other when it comes to getting fans excited. As far as Parsons goes. He's got to be our backup plan now. If we don't get Lebron or Carmelo, we just match his offer. We sign either and we let Parsons walk.
Just off of those 3 criteria, the first team that comes to mind is Cleveland. 1. They have over $20M in cap space and can get to $30M if they don't pick up the option on Varajao. 2. #1 overall pick in 2014 draft. 2015 Miami 1st round pick (protected 1-10). 3. Anthony Bennett, Tristian Thompson, Dion Waiters, Tyler Zeller. Just based on those three items Cleveland has lots of ammunition if they really did want to make a run at Love.
The rumor is that Love poopoo'd a possibility of a resign so the Cavs pulled their offer. If they could have gotten Love, they would have increased the odds of a Lebron homecoming.
At the end of the day, Love/salary for Klay/Lee/etc. is a deal they are going to do regardless if its still there at the end of the day. What I think has happened is Lebron James, and the fact that he's potentially available gives GS the initiative to try like hell to keep that additional Minny salary from coming back. I see the Klay to LAL deal as bluffing. Its all about Kevin Love for GS, and its always been. Right now I just see them trying to see what they can do to get both Love and Lebron or Melo... because why not. It is yet to be seen if the stalling will eventually blow up in their face if Flip Flips. -To your point, I don't think GS's big 3 is any or much better than Houston's potential big 3. However in GS's mind, they are probably thinking why not at least try, and maybe you end up with Melo or Bosh if Lebron goes elsewhere. Either way, Thompson & Lee are gone. You can stall, play hard ball to try and keep Barrea, etc. out of the deal to have a chance at Lebron/Melo/Bosh, or you can just take the package now for Love and say "who needs Lebron".... Its a no-brainer to at least try and keep the additional salary out of the deal to give yourself a shot.
Except for the fact that Love already said "i will not resign with you cleveland" so he basically said you can spend all that to get him for 1 season then he is gonna tell them to F off
This is what I'm saying. Morey is probably saying "Why not try to get a Big 4"? It may not happen, but if you are shooting for higher, even if you come out with less, it will still be great.
I think one criteria for 'Big' that is widely accepted is, "player voted to an allstar team recently".
Just for the record........ this is the ONLY way I see Parsons getting traded. And I've been clear about that. If we could get Lebron to pair with 3 other superstars...then Morey will do it. That is the only way. But that realistically has less than a tenth of 1% of happening.
We definitely BOTH AGREE on that is probably the ONLY way that Parsons gets traded. I believe that. The percentage of it happening, I don't know...depends on how predatory Morey really is.
There is really no point in even discussing this scenario quite honestly. Its not gonna happen in any reality we live in.
I dunno man, if you can get 3, one of which is lebron, love might be intrigued, and if you can get love, i dont think lebron would turn down that obvious chance to DOMINATE the nba for a few years... plus any one has seen a BIG 3, who wouldnt want to be a part of the first ever BIG 4 lol
We are all dreaming of just getting Lebron possibly. Don't tell me how BIG I can dream or not. :grin: I am just discussing a possibility, not something that is not possible on paper.
Very well than. Have at it. I just dont like to get in conversations about moves that have to exist in a universe where superstars take ridiculous pay cuts, and that's where they starts. I'll buy a 1 or 2 million dollar cut, or sacrificing bird rights/extra year, but I'll believe it when I see it with superstars doing something that drastic like cutting their pay in half over the life of their contracts in their prime. Oh and the Spurs dont count. On the open market outside of San Antonio, when they all were signed, and at their advanced ages, non of them were really taking that much less than their market value outside of SA at the times that their current contracts were signed. The whole idea that the "big 3" in San Antonio took some huge sacrificial pay cut a few years ago is overplayed. I hate how its used to entertain insane conversations about Superstars taking pay-cuts just to excite fans (mainly LA fans with ridiculous LAC & LAL wet dreams).
The challenge is not would love and lebron be intrigued. The challenge would be convincing Miami to sign-and-trade Lebron (or NY to sign-and-trade Melo). Because if a deal for Love is announced...even if it is not consumated..then Miami (or NY) knows we don't have the cap space to sign their guy. So they can resist a sloppy, junkie sign-and-trade. The only way a sign-and-trade can be agreed upon with Miami where we send Miami back Parsons, Lin and other junk would be for Miami to be convinced that we are going to clear out Lin and sign Lebron outright. So the deal for Love would have to stay under wraps while we worked Miami to agree to a S&T for Lebron. The chances of that happening....slim to none.
They would still get their max contracts. Nothing I suggested included them taking HUGE paycuts. Basketballholic has a better explanation of what would cause it to not happen above.
Agreed, if we were to SnT for Love first, which would be the most likely scenario and what I am hoping we do before the draft tonight. After that, there are still OTHER teams that will have cap space cleared for Lebron or Melo. If Miami or NY wouldn't play ball with whatever we had left to do a SnT with, is it even possible for a separate team to SnT Lebron or Melo to us for our assets if Lebron or Melo asked them to do so because they wouldn't sign with that team anyway? I don't know if that's allowed under the CBA, but if it is, it would be a way for those teams to get whatever assets we had left after a Love trade...depending on if it enticing to them and they have no emotions tied to that player leaving their team like NY or Miami will have. If that's even possible, it puts Lebron or Melo back in the drivers seat to tell their teams to take the trade or lose them for nothing. Just rambling if it is not even possible for that to happen with free agents.
I didn't see this posted yet. 1611 is the year the King James Bible was first published. That means Lebron
