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[ESPN] Houston Could Get Melo AND Lebron

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hotballa, Jun 25, 2014.

  1. howardsucks

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    Harden is young, Melo has proven nothing but scoring and he learned from Iverson, how to destroy teams eventually.lol Tho I hope we get the Team USA Melo.
     
  2. JayGoogle

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    Harden was traded, he did not leave.

    The trade shocked him too as he thought he was just negotiating.

    He did not want to leave OKC. That much was very clear.
     
  3. torocan

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    Harden didn't want to leave OKC, but the last offer to Harden was literally over a handful of millions. If he wasn't so locked in on the money, he'd still be in OKC. That's not a crime, it's just where his priorities were.

    Harden knew OKC's salary cap situation. He was also aware that multiple players took pay cuts. He knew that OKC was a small market franchise and had financial constraints.

    While OKC is not free of blame, don't think that Harden wasn't counting the dollar signs as well and that our ability to offer 5 years and a max contract was not the main sticking point.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...eat-rockets-120-98-in-hardens-return/1733945/

    Maybe Harden misread the situation. However, he was as culpable as anyone in why he left OKC. The offer from OKC was $53M. The difference was about $1.5M/year.

    No, Harden didn't do us any favors. He forced the issue with OKC over money, and Presti made a move based on his belief that they weren't going to reach a resolution after 4 months.

    Harden got stuck on the money. And Houston just happened to have the best offer on the table.
     
  4. YaoMing#1

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    I can almost guarantee that harden is one of the top 5 hottest commodities in the entire NBA. He's 24 and more talented than any player under 25. You just don't find players like him at that age. I don't think some ppl realize how special of a talent this guy really is...... Oh well, you ppl will have to learn to
    Love him because he's not going anywhere. Lebrons not choosing melo over harden simply for the fact that harden at 24 has been better than melo the past. 2 seasons.

    Hardens made all this happen, not Dwight not DM or anyone else. It was harden all nba play the last 2 yrs while at the tender age of 23 and 24. I just think it's funny that a lot of posters like yourself has just totally written a him off given all he's done in for the rockets on an off the court the last 2 seasons.

    Simply put harden is the exact player lebron wants to play with. He can run the show and give him a break but also can play off other superstars who need the ball. (KD & Westbrook). To think lebron would choose an older player who doesn't complement lebron as well at this stage of his career just doesn't make sense. It's said that lebron wants someone who can play like him in the regular season to give him more energy for the playoffs? That sounds a lot like the beard to me not melo.
     
  5. Vpballa916

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    Harden in the playoffs in the last 2 seasons has been worse than D-Wade this year, and this isn't including when Harden shrunk against Miami when Lebron won his first ring. At least with Melo, we know he won't shrink when it matters,
    THE PLAYOFFS.
     
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  6. Texanswin2013

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    Considering the circumstances against OKC he really wasn't bad at all.
     
  7. count_dough-ku

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    I look at it this way. If LeBron for whatever reason prefers playing with Melo instead of Harden, you do a sign-and-trade with the Knicks. But if he's fine coming here regardless of whether we have Harden or Melo, keep Harden. He's 5 years younger, the best in the league at his position(offensively anyway), and just entering his prime. Plus he's doesn't play the same position as LeBron and Parsons like Melo does.
     
  8. Texanswin2013

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    Lol no.



    Ok, tell me where some playmaking would come from in the Harden trade scenario.


    AND NOTE:


    1. Harden and LeBron were virtually the same playmaking-wise this past season.


    2. Parsons and Lin were on this team as decent playmakers, would be gone if we got LBJ and Melo


    This team this past season turned the ball over alot because of errant passing. We're losing two more playmakers if we get both LBJ and Melo.


    The offense would be so bad.
     
  9. YaoMing#1

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    Do consider melo is a career 40% shooter in the playoffs and has a career record of 23 -46 or something close to that. Plus he's 31 and not getting younger. On the other hand you got harden who at just 24 put up a all nba seasons (something melo has nvr done) and was top 5 in MVP voting. But we want to get rid of that guy? Smh
     
  10. SeekingAlpha

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    I agree that the franchise shouldn't just go and trade Harden to appease LeBron, but if there's literally no other way, then it's almost like trading Harden for LeBron + Melo in the eyes of fans. In that scenario, I would make the trade.

    Ideally, I don't want Melo on the Rockets, as he overlaps too much with Harden. And if we don't get LeBron either, then it means we're letting Asik go for a future first that likely won't fully develop by the time Howard's out of his prime.
     
  11. Possum

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    Be careful talking about the Demi god like that around here. The HOF's are just as bad as the LOF's. They will take it personal and call you names. Lol!
     
  12. count_dough-ku

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    Look, if LeBron's stipulation for coming here is he wants to play with Melo, then you make it happen. If my choices are Dwight/LeBron/Melo, Dwight/Harden/Melo, or Dwight/Harden/Someone Else(or maybe no one at all), I go with Option #1 in a heartbeat. I would prefer Harden remain here, but if LeBron is interested in being a Rocket, you do everything in your power to get him to sign here.
     
  13. Possum

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    So you would pass up the chance to add Lebran and Carmelo just to keep Harden? Luckily we have a gm smarter than that.
     
  14. Houstunna

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    A poster talks about errant passes and turnovers, then mentions Lin's subtraction being a bad thing. :confused:
     
  15. Downtown Sniper

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    This might be one of the most ill-thought of posts I've ever read.

    1) butter fingers Asik is gone
    2) Top 10 worst basketball IQ Jeremy Lin would be gone

    There goes a hell of a lot of our turnovers.

    You are literally the only person alive who has said adding Melo or Lebron - our offense would be bad.

    Meanwhile, everyone else is saying it would be off the charts good.
     
  16. Texanswin2013

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    Asik barely played. They turned the ball over alot regardless.


    But please, tell me, how a lineup like this would actually win:

    Beverley
    SG from Parsons
    LeBron
    Melo
    Howard
    Now, in this you have playmaker, unless there's some really good SG who can shoot, play D and pass(Lance?) it's likely gonna be a 3-D guy.


    Knowing how there really isn't an offense regardless because if McHale, how could a team like this POSSIBLY score without isolating? A Dwight-LeBron PNR? And Dwight doesn't even like doing that. Beverley and Melo can catch and shoot but LeBron would pretty much have to create everything(something he's tired of doing) and the offense would be much easier to stop purely because of how predictable it is.


    And also note that this team has a 3 year window at best and that you have literally no good players off the bench.
     
  17. Texanswin2013

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    Your second best passer in Melo(LOL) would have like a 0.1 Ast/TO ratio.


    Even Lin isn't that bad.
     
  18. morpheus133

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    The only way we would go for Carmelo and Lebron over Harden and Lebron is if that is what Lebron wants. It's not what I want, you want, or even what Morey wants. If Lebron says he will come, but only if he can play with Carmelo you do it. That's the only reason they trade Harden.
     
  19. krnxsnoopy

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    "Multiple Sources"
     
  20. DreaMac

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    I just don't understand why Lebron would prefer to play with a 30yo Melo who sometimes is considered a selfish player, over a 24yo SG who is considered best at his position and is also very unselfish. Also you are talking about breaking a playoff team, that started to build some chemistry.

    And if you are Morey, I dont see how you would want to do that. 24yo for 30yo, breaking up the team, and letting everybody know even your superstars are assets. Just doesn't sound right.
     

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