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Agent to Heat: LeBron James opting out

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Camarograna2, Jun 24, 2014.

  1. Fyreball

    Fyreball Member

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    Well, desperation is the choice cologne of most NBA teams.....especially when it comes to wooing the world's best player.
     
  2. Voice of Aus

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    This east vs west talk is crap.

    It's not like LBJ had had an easy run to the finals (well this year was kinda) but besides that the heat have struggled and got to game 7's regularly.

    Also of LBJ really wants shabazz then the heat arnt moving up, all their players are ineliagble or crap like Norris Cole is proberbly their best offer 25 + cole! what team is taking that...

    If morey thinks the story is true it's time to go ballsy, trade Asik and 24 for one of

    Atlanta (15)
    Boston (17)

    And try and get some second rounders aswell.

    Time to go big if this story is true.
     
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  3. finsraider

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    Norris Cole. Literally, that's the only player they can control.

    Future picks maybe.
     
  4. drowsy12

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    If all it takes to keep Lebron is Shabazz friggin Napier, then he was never leaving Miami anyways.
     
  5. justtxyank

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    Too rich. Let the Heat trade future picks to move up for Napier. LOL

    They'll never get a talent infusion.
     
  6. professorjay

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    Not exactly, but I think he really, really wants to make it work if possible.

    Even if the Heat situation seems like an 8 compared to a 9 or 10 elsewhere I think he takes his chances and stays put.

    The Heat probably won't make one blockbuster move. But if they can make a handful of decent moves that clearly makes the team better (albeit marginally) than last year it might be enough to convince him.
     
  7. J.R.

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    This.

    Woj just said LeBron is doing this to "pressure" Miami and Carmelo is focused on Chicago and Chicago continues to be the favorite.

    In the end, he could be wrong but...
     
  8. treyk3

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    He mentions the Rockets as the 2nd favorite to steal Melo from Knicks after the Bulls and the 2nd favorite to steal LeBron from Miami after the Clippers. Hey, if you're not first your last right Doc?
     
  9. ForTheWinYes

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    Yeah, the Rockets will never acquire a star player.

    Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
     
  10. J.R.

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    2nd to Chicago, yes.

    I don't think he put any "favorites"(other than Miami) on LeBron.

    Said the Lakers aren't in play unless they bring in another player(and doesn't think the whole Kobe-LeBron thing would work well).
    Said Cleveland, if they could flip the number one pick for a star veteran, maybe?
    Said Houston wants to have a chance to sell him.
    Said the Clippers are most intriguing to him.
     
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  11. justtxyank

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    Woj isn't really good when he's speculating (he did say the Magic would trade Dwight to Houston afterall) but I agree with him here.

    Lebron wants to stay in Miami ideally. If he can get things done the way he wants, he will stay there.
     
  12. Carl Herrera

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    Given that there is one Melo and one Lebron, being 2nd favorite doesn't amount to a whole lot more than being used as leverage like Morey usually is.
     
  13. J.R.

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    Who said the Rockets will "never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever" land a star player?

    I said I agree with the poster who said the Rockets aren't really in the running for either and you turn that into "The Rockets will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever land a star player."

    :grin: Great job!
     
  14. Angkor Wat

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    Well they did make it to the Finals, so they are a piece or two away. Its not like they got swept in the First Round or missed the playoffs. Miami is easily the front runner. I don't think he wants to catch backlash for jumping ship AGAIN unless they can't help him out in MIA. Miami will do whatever they can to keep him there.

    This will not be easy.
     
  15. finsraider

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    "Pressure" can't do anything about the assets that Miami doesn't have.

    The only, and I mean only "assets" Miami has are:

    1) The ability for LeBron, Wade, and Bosh to all take paycuts.
    2) Norris Cole under contract.
    3) Justin Hamilton non-guaranteed
    4) #26 pick
    5) #55 pick
    6) Future picks (though I'm not sure several of these havent already been traded away).

    From LeBron's end, it feels more like an "out" to me. "Well, Wade wouldn't opt out and you couldn't get Napier, so I'm leaving. See ya."
     
  16. sabesque

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    Their current thinking doesn't necessarily mean that's the outcome.

    When it comes to making decisions, they're coming into the process with a set of experiences or biases that influence the decision that they think they want to make.

    The analogy is buying a car. Melo decides he wants a new whip. At this point in time he thinks he really wants to buy a BMW. But he's still planning on going to dealerships and doing a test drives. Although he thought he was going to buy a BMW, the test drive might not have lived up to his expectations. Or the Benz was better than he thought and they had a great offer.

    The good news is, these guys are going to go through the process, they are going to consider their options and we have a very good argument to make.
     
  17. crash5179

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    You can take the Clippers off of the board. They're not getting Lebron unless they unload CP3 or Griffin. If the Clipps unload CP3 or Griffin, will Lebron still want to play there?
     
  18. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    7) All others players really, really wanting to play with Lebron.
    8) Most other players really, really wanting to play for a Miami org. that's shown they can win championships, both before and after Lebron arrived.
     
  19. crash5179

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    Kind of like the Dwight used the Rockets for leverage to get the Lakers to resign him? Kind of like OKC used the Rockets as leverage to get a better offer from other teams for James Harden?

    Daryl Morey is so bad at acquiring star players, right? :rolleyes:
     
  20. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    EXACTLY!

    Lebron & Chris Paul - They can work together!
    Lebron & James Harden - Harden dominates the ball, not a good match!

    Clippers can move contracts. All TWELVE OF THEM! to get LBJ+CP3+Grifin
    Rockets? Lin and Asik will be hard to move.

    National media creating their OWN NARRATIVE!

    ESPNnewyork
    ESPNchicago
    ESPNmiami
    ESPNlosangeles
    ESPNdallas

    Big giant circle jerk.
     

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