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As Carmelo Anthony leans toward leaving New York, Chicago and Houston emerge as frontrunners

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by t0mdotcom, Jun 14, 2014.

  1. blahblehblah

    blahblehblah Member

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    Not to mention, he somehow failed to noticed footnote no. 2 which would mitigate a team being above the apron simply by having them take in less than trading out... not at all a difficult requirement in this scenario.
     
  2. da_juice

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    I agree. And I would think that Melo, now approaching 30, wants as close as a sure thing as he can - especially after what he dealt with with Amar'e in NY.
     
  3. larsv8

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    Carmelo Anthony max deal: 22.351 million
    Lin + Asik = 16.749

    You think Parsons is going to sign in the dumpster fire that is the New York for 6 million dollars?

    Its not happening.
     
  4. blahblehblah

    blahblehblah Member

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    The argument isnt about what will or wont happen, its about what can or cannot happen.

    In this case, Parson would have absolutely no say in whether or not he gets traded, because in order to trade him, the Rockets MUST exercise their option on him, which would make him an unrestricted free agent in 2015. (Per Bimathug)

    Clearly per the rules, it is possible to trade Parsons and Clearly it is possible for the Knicks to trade for him, IF the rockets exercise his option.
     
  5. blahblehblah

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    What part of this dont you understand?- per Bimathug -
    Under the CBA, a player cannot be traded between the end of the regular season and June 30 if that player COULD become a free agent on July 1.

    I know this applies to player options and Early Termination Options. I also believe it applies to TEAM options.

    Therefore, if Parsons COULD be made a free agent by the acquiring team declining his option, then (I believe) Parsons cannot be traded. If, however, the Rockets exercised their team option on Parsons (meaning that Parsons would not be able to become a free agent until 2015) and THEN traded him, that would be legal.

    For the third time, i've referred to this. Parsons wont be signing a new contract for 6 million or 600 million, because he would already be under contract for ONE MORE YEAR!
     
  6. torocan

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    They're already sitting at $91M as of today, and Amare, Chandler and Bargnani all fall off the books at the end of 2015 (23, 14, 12). As of today they only have $12M committed to 2015/16.

    And that's WITH Asik and Lin who are on expiring contracts who they could let walk or re-sign at market value.

    I doubt they are worried about re-signing Parsons if they really want him considering that they'll have bird rights. They could even just do a sign and trade to move him out for assets at the end of next season.

    Given Parsons is on minimum and that Asik/Lin are $8.3M in cap hits, you're only talking $18M or so in cap holds between all 3 to go with their $12M on the books. That's assuming they don't trade away Felton, JR Smith and Shumpert to another team (highly likely if they move JR and Felton that they'll need to include Shumpert to make the trade work).

    The LAST thing the Knicks will be worried about is whether they can come up with the money to re-sign Parsons if they actually want to keep him.

    And NO, Parsons does NOT need to agree to a trade if the Rockets pick up his team option. Then he just becomes another tradable contract. Yes, Parsons would have to agree to walk on NY if he wanted to leave... however, why would he leave the Knicks at that point?

    The Knicks have deep pockets, a huge built in audience, national media exposure, and the GM will be Phil Jackson who will be looking to make a splash in 2016 Free Agency to build a legitimate play off contender.

    Just because you wish that Parsons can't be moved doesn't make it true. Morey still has options until he declines Parsons' option... which he has not yet done.
     
  7. larsv8

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    Parsons option is going to be declined.
     
  8. torocan

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    Rumored that it's going to be declined.

    Nothing is real until the contracts are actually signed and we see a press release. And if Parsons is the sticking point in the trade, don't think for a moment that Morey won't move him.

    At that point Parsons becomes another team's problem.
     
  9. J.R.

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    No basketballholic yet? I'M SHOCKED!

    We

    Are

    Not

    Trading

    Parsons

    :grin:
     
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    not if LBJ/Bosh/Melo all communicate that they are not interested in joining the rockets before the 30th, they opt into their current deals, or if Morey is going to trade Parsons. Any of these 3 scenarios can happen and if they do, Parson's contract will be picked up in order to preserve cap space to sign another star next offseason.
     
  11. ThatBoyNick

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    Not saying he won't be declined, but nothing is for sure until it actually happens.
     
  12. Htownballer38

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    How do you know what Melo wants. If im not mistaken didn't he tell NY he would take a pay cut if they could get him some help. Therefore he could easily take 14-15 million a year. Melo wants to win a Championship.
     
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    He probably settled down after cyberx posted that Parsons would be delt as a last resort in a S&T.
     
  14. larsv8

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    As a Knick fan, I know this is a rough time for you and you are holding on hope that it might somehow all work out in the end. Maybe some glimmer of hope is out there, and you might be able to land Parsons in the fall out.

    I'm sorry to tell you, it isn't going to happen.
     
  15. Play07

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    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=255595&page=9

    cyberx
    "I have tried and tried guys - can't find out what teams Morey has lined up to take omer and Lin... Someone told me it could be
    Morey leaking this for tactical
    Reasons to up the demand!"

    cyberx
    "Will pitch to Lebron, if he says no, then to Melo, once verbal done, he will trade the guys. May have to sign and trade parsons as last resort."

    Cybrex
    "Lin to ny is a possibility if they can't get Mills"


    -cyberx came through with some scoop last night in the Asik + Lin trade thread, that some may missed, "basketballhoilc" I'm just passing the word that's it
     
  16. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Both philly and utah need over 20 million in salaries to make MINIMUM salary. Both teams have strong ties to you know who.
     
  17. LikeMike

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    True, I don't know what Melo wants. But taking 14-15 million a year would be a 35 million dollar paycut. Melo doesn't strike me as the guy who would take that big a paycut, I think he'd be ok with taking something close to 20 million. Think a paycut like LeBron did.

    And you always have to look at why he would take that paycut. It wouldn't be to stay with his hometown since NY can't be FA players this offseason (so if at all he'd do it for the future, which is always dangerous) - he'd do it to join the Bulls, a team he has no ties to. On the other hand he could just take 35 million more and go to arguably a better team to begin with.
     
  18. Htownballer38

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    He could also take a pay cut to come play with a healthy Dwight Howard and James Harden. I don't know what he will do but Melo himself said he would take a pay cut.

    Another team he could easily take a pay cut to play for is the Miami Heat.

    Yes there are plenty of teams that would pay him 20 million. But im thinking the man wants to achieve what his peers Wade, Bosh, and Lebron have achieved, and that's Championship. Him his wife are pretty wealthy and is not hurting for anything. So you can best believe he is chasing after that beautiful shiny championship ring to go on his finger.
     
  19. Old Man Rock

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    Never in a million years will Melo take the kind of paycut he needs to sign with the heat.
     
  20. meh

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    The CBA prevents this from happening, as larvs8 pointed out earlier. No supposed insider or Knick fan speculation can twist the CBA. It is the law of the NBA and internet posts don't change that.

    The only way Parsons can go to the Knicks is if they dump a huge amount of salary, like trading Amare for nothing. Yes, it is "possible", but that possibility is on the level of Melo and LeBron both taking $8mil to play for the Rockets together.
     

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