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Militants Overrun Mosul

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Jun 10, 2014.

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  1. glynch

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    911 was used as an excuse to invade and occupy Afghanistan, side against the Taliban in a civil war and do whatever else was our objective. Instead of treating it as limited police operation to get Bin Laden we created more terrorists than we have killed. Iraq of course magnified the mistake ten times over and will go down as perhaps the greatest blunder in American history and one of the worst in world history in the last century or two. Our drone strategy and violation of their national sovereignty in Pakistan, Yemen etc. also creates more terrorists who hate us than we have killed.


    We can't lessen terrorism by consistently creating millions of folks who hate us more and more. Basically this is common sense.

    We should stop overreacting to real terrorists when they actually threaten the United States, which is actually relatively rare. Granted it is exciting/ scary and boosts news rating, much like local crime reporting, to speculate endlessly about possible terrorist scenarios, but this should not be encouraged. As we saw with Bush it can help your political career when you consciously try to scare the public over terrorism and propose even counterproductive policies as a solution. It is certainly a boost for the military industrial complex and the new homeland security/ surveillance complex.

    We should eventually consider a formal apology to the Muslim world and the people of Afghanistan,Iraq and other countries for our actions over there.

    We need to stop selling arms to all sides. We need to start following international war with respect to starting wars.

    Slowly these folks will stop hating us for our past actions and they will be able to focus on the large extent to which they cause their own problems. If they are insistent on a holy war among themselves there is not much we can do to stop it, and constantly supporting and selling arms to one side or the other or at times both sides at times, just creates more enemies for us needlessly.

    To make amends and be helpful when it is actually useful we should engage in large scale humanitarian/ rebuilding aid, on the gigantic trillion dollar level scale we spend on wars.

    Such massive spending without the goad of constant fear mongering over terrorism may lead to some resentment that we can't rebuild our own cities and neighborhoods, but we can use some of the trillions we waste on these wars to do that, too.
     
  2. IzakDavid13

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    The only way to beat these animals is to eliminate them from the face of the Earth...of course there's always that issue of the 'Doctrine' that they follow, that somehow always seems to produce radical groups that want to see the infidel / Kufar eliminated or subjugated, but that's for another thread.

    Get the drones bombing now! What is Obama waiting for?

    Even the use of Nukes would be justified in this case...I'm pretty sure if Al-Queda & ISIS was removed from the gene pool, not many people would be quick to shed any tears. (Except for the Leftie liberals maybe...you know the ones that want us to apologise to these animals for being the target of their hatred & terrorist attacks.)

    ...you can't say that AroundTheWorld & I didn't try to warn y'all...

    I still have family over there that has had to flee Mosul, because the crime of being Christian is an automatic death sentence from these soulless mongrels.

    BTW: The Australian Government has already started cancelling passports to homegrown / nationalised 'radicals' that have flown over to Iraq to fight alongside ISIS...should cancel their citizenship as well.

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/2428701...l-iraqi-identified-in-isis-recruitment-video/


    Home grown terrorists...smh.


    I still pray for a day when we can see true & ever lasting peace, but for that to happen this evil must be eradicated...the light must overcome the darkness.

    How fitting that their war banner is black - like their hearts.
     
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  3. Dubious

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    Yup, ISIS are pretty much just pirates, mercenaries taking advantage of the lack of order.
    But it's way more complicated than just saying you're going to go kill them all. They have local support and religious and tribal allies. They are embedded within the population. Action against them is tacit support for Shia over Sunni interest. The US is tired of endless war in the Middle east and tapped out paying for it.

    Civil wars are the ugliest and most entrenched wars. They are tar-babies for outside actors, once you get involved it's very hard to ever disengage.
     
  4. basso

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    Excellent comedic timing from the copypasta army, certainly comensurate with the gravity of the situation.
     
  6. Harrisment

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    And there you have it folks.
     
  7. Deckard

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    It's why I have basso on ignore. While I enjoy his posts in other forums, as far as D&D is concerned, "all" he does here is troll and post absurd crap that he personally must find amusing, and god, if he really does think he's being funny here, his sense of humor is somewhere down in the bottom of his toilet bowl. For the sake of those around him, I hope he washes his hands from time to time.
     
  8. IzakDavid13

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    Have what? What do you have? Nice cherry picking of my post…pure Liberalism at its finest.

    Do you know the real situation in Iraq?

    It's not OK to use tactical nuclear weapons to take out one of the biggest threats to world stability & teach them that their aggression will not be tolerated?

    These ISIS animals are less than human, they have no regard for human life & have threatened to go after Jordan & other Gulf states after they take Baghdad.

    They are slaughtering whole Assyrian Christian families in the North of the country, as well as executing ex-police & military along with their families. Innocent women & children are being raped, tortured and then either executed or taken as sex slave 'War Booty'…but that's Ok, isn't it.

    What do you propose? What is your solution?


    WARNING GRAFIC: (Drive by shootings & executions start at 4:37)

    <iframe width="853" height="480" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/YaGPzinXvY8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>






    Obama supplied these lowlife scumbags with the weapons they're using to kill innocent civilians, it's time for him to start cleaning up his mess.

    Imagine it was your family, friends & community being targeted…I bet that you'd feel different, buy being so entrenched in your Leftie way of thinking, probably not.

    They need to be stopped. This is the single biggest threat facing the world today.
     
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    Great screed, but one minor point: If you nuke them, they won't learn anything because they would be, you know, dead.

    As to the substance, I think yes, it is best to keep a lid on nuke use regardless of circumstances (asteroid about to hit earth being the exception, of course).
     
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  11. Dubious

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    The lesson here is that discriminatory, exclusionary governance results in the militancy of the disenfranchised.

    * known since 330 BC
     
  12. IzakDavid13

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    A good terrorist is a dead terrorist…this is what the 'radicals' want for The USA & Americans.

    <iframe width="640" height="480" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/b3tIlXFCvjo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  13. CometsWin

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    Yes, time to drop a nuke on a Iraq. Excellent idea Dick Chen... IzakDavid.
     
  14. basso

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    the image was produced by ISIS, and they're using it to troll the obama admin.
     
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    So now basso is pushing terrorist propaganda because he thinks it will make Obama look bad.

    Really all you need to know about him.
     
  16. Baba Booey

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    Do you have any other terrorist propaganda you'd like to disseminate?
     
  17. fchowd0311

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    Yes, because when someone suggests nuclear weapons as an option, suggesting that is a bad and immoral idea is "liberalism" and "cherrypicking". I call it being rational and having a moral compass.

    Just ignore the nuclear fallout and propaganda machine against America if a nuke is dropped in a Muslim nation(you think they hate us now, wait till you drop a nuke in their region). How about having 100% determination that within the casualty radius of the nuclear detonation that there are no innocent civilians>
     
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  18. basso

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    trolling is propaganda?
     
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    I won't call him what he called some of us 10 years ago.

    I'm not sure any more if the blind hatred that consumes him is actually directed towards the President or liberals in general.
     
  20. IzakDavid13

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    Ok, dropping a Hiroshima sized nuke may be going to far, but you have to agree that these vermin have to be eradicated...and quickly.
     

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