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Dick Cheney has been wrong on Iraq since 2002 when he pushed for war. Why listen to him now?

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  1. adoo

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    Dick Cheney has been wrong on Iraq since 2002 when he pushed for war. Why listen to him now?




    let's itemize

    • 9/11 Hijacker Met with Iraqis; December 9, 2001

      [*]"Well, the evidence is pretty conclusive that the Iraqis have indeed harbored terrorists... report that's been pretty well confirmed, that [9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta] did go to Prague and
      he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack." ​
    • There is No Doubt" Saddam Has WMD, Aug 2002

    • [*]There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction,
      [*]There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends... and against us."​
    • U.S. "Greeted as Liberators", Mar 2003

      [*]"My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators... I think it will go relatively quickly... [in] weeks rather than months."​
    • A "Strike at the Heart" of Terrorists that Attacked on 9/11, Sep 2003

      [*]"If we're successful in Iraq ... we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11."​
    • Iraq/Al-Qaeda "Link", January 10, 2004

      [*]"We haven't really had the time yet to pore through all those records in Baghdad. We'll find ample evidence confirming the link, that is the connection if you will between al Qaida and the Iraqi intelligence services. They have worked together on a number of occasions."​


    • "Last Throes of the Insurgency", June 20, 2005

      [*]"I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency."

      ​
     
    #1 adoo, Jun 18, 2014
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  2. Johndoe804

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    Lmao. No ****! Hahahaha!
     
    #2 Johndoe804, Jun 18, 2014
  3. Space Ghost

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    uhh who's listening to him now?
     
    #3 Space Ghost, Jun 18, 2014
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    #4 FishBulb913, Jun 18, 2014
  5. False

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    He was wrong about the war, but a more productive conversation can be had about why he was wrong and continues to be wrong than simply just ignoring him. If we ignored people who have been wrong at least once, we wouldn't be able to listen to anyone.
     
    #5 False, Jun 18, 2014
  6. Bandwagoner

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    I would say he has credibility. He was the VP, rumsfeld screwed the pooch on the war. How much heat is Biden getting for the situation in Iraq now? None and rightly so.

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    #6 Bandwagoner, Jun 18, 2014
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    During the run-up to the war, I was trying to be open-minded and look at the evidence. The point that turned me against the war for good was when we started massing troops in Kuwait weeks before the invasion. It was then that I knew they were lying about Saddam having any major WMDs.

    When someone is massing an army across your border with the intent to invade, if you had WMDs you would use them while your enemy is all bunched up. Why wait until they invade and they are all spread out? There was no second guessing the Kuwait-gathering and not even Bush-Cheney were stupid enough to make our soldiers sitting ducks, so the only logical explanation is that they knew there were no significant WMDs in Iraq.

    They lied.
     
    #7 rimrocker, Jun 18, 2014
  8. val_modus

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    Why did we go to Iraq? /thread
     
    #8 val_modus, Jun 18, 2014
  9. Cohete Rojo

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    Pakistan is a crazy ****ed up country overrun by militant Islamists that harbored OBL for a decade. They have WMDs. Anybody give a **** enough to invade Pakistan?
     
    #9 Cohete Rojo, Jun 19, 2014
  10. peleincubus

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    Or North Korea?
     
    #10 peleincubus, Jun 19, 2014
  11. Invisible Fan

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    Dick was 100% on board to create another topic about Dick.
     
    #11 Invisible Fan, Jun 19, 2014
  12. CrazyDave

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    If you think Biden is running things the way Cheney did then I don't know what to tell you.
     
    #12 CrazyDave, Jun 19, 2014
  13. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    War = $$$$$$$

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    #13 Joshfast, Jun 19, 2014
  14. Nook

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    Not one.......

    Not two..........

    Not three.........

    Not four............

    But five deferments!
     
    #14 Nook, Jun 19, 2014
  15. rocketsjudoka

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    I was against going into Iraq when I first heard about it. I thought it was ludicrous that we would consider another major military undertaking while we were still fighting in Afghanistan. I wasn't sure about whether Saddam had WMD and did find Powell's February 2002 presentation at the UN credible (of course we later found out it was anything but.) My own feel was that he wasn't going to to use them or let them fall into Al Qaeda hands and that Saddam was contained and not worth bothering with at a time when there were more pressing issues.
     
    #15 rocketsjudoka, Jun 19, 2014
  16. Raven

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    No one does listen to him except the 1% and their media cronies.
     
    #16 Raven, Jun 19, 2014
  17. krosfyah

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    The fact the GWB has faded behind the scenes and Cheney is still trying to be front and center tells us what we all suspected about who was actually running show.

    Biden, like every other VP, doesn't have any influence. Cheney was not a typical VP.
     
    #17 krosfyah, Jun 25, 2014
  18. KingCheetah

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    Biden was right on Iraq.
     
    #18 KingCheetah, Jun 25, 2014
  19. IBTL

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    no one listens to him, he is a chickenhawking draft dodger, war criminal.

    ted bundy was a better republican
     
    #19 IBTL, Jun 26, 2014
  20. Dubious

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    I only see FAUX when I'm on the treadmill at the gym, but it's like a whole nother reality.
    It's like the only thing they give a **** about is opposing anything and everything about Obama no matter how disconnected it is from the real world.

    That's the only place that even gives Cheney the time of day.
     
    #20 Dubious, Jun 26, 2014
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