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Lebron chokes again

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Rockets Pride, Feb 13, 2011.

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  1. SamFisher

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    Well, he's got 2 titles and 4 finals appearances over the last 4 years along with hte best winning percentage in the league - that's better than anybody else so he's probably due for an Executive of the Year award.
     
  2. professorjay

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    He has the best track record of any GM during his 'tenure'. I don't fault him for taking his career into his own hands. Would you rather leave your career up to some other random person who might not even be competent in their own job?

    I really don't get this technicality on who did what as long as it happens. I don't care if it's Morey or Harden or Dwight if they bring better players to improve the team.
     
  3. t_mac1

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    So in real life, you rather someone else decides where you work rather than where you want to work and who you want to work with?

    What Lebron did is what most people do in real life. Make their freaking own decisions.
     
  4. napalm06

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    Following this logic... In real life I don't usually schedule nationally televised press conferences for my decisions, or parade my greatness around and loudly predict my future success either.
     
  5. justtxyank

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    That's because nobody would watch your press conference and you don't have any measurable greatness to parade around that anyone outside of you, your employer and your family would care about. I don't mean that as an insult, but you aren't a professional athlete or some other celebrity type.

    But in general I hate when people compare athlete decisions and actions to real world decisions and actions. They don't live in your world and as Lebron has made clear to the fans before, they don't really care about any of either beyond hyping us up to make sure we give the dollars.
     
  6. t_mac1

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    Depends on your job. Are you the best at your job, a job that widely involves social media?

    If you are, go ahead and do that.
     
  7. napalm06

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    Lebron can do whatever he wants, of course. And we can dislike him or like him as we wish, of course. Lame behavior isn't defined relative to a person's job.
     
  8. napalm06

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    Well, it turns out that athletes are humans just like us. They're only on a pedestal because we make them that way. The type of greatness you're referring to is completely artificial.

    Lebron might be the kindest, most generous person on his own time, and that kind of greatness can't be measured. But if he's going to beat his chest and proclaim his greatness on television, that's artificial greatness. Being tall, strong, and great at smashing a ball through a basket doesn't entitle anyone to escape criticism for self-aggrandizing behavior.

    Anyway, I'm done. This argument is as old as time itself. I'm disturbed by the way Americans fixate on celebrities.
     
  9. t_mac1

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    You can dislike how he goes about doing it, sure. He admitted it was a bad decision.

    But ultimately, people were mad at him for choosing to play with other stars by making a "decision," which is laughable.

    It's better to have a team be "built" by leaving it up to a random GM. But damn if you go out there and make it happen yourself. Damn him.
     
  10. Angkor Wat

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    its funny, all the people that hate lebron for whatever reason, and jumped on the SPURS bandwagon, would LOVE Lebron is he came to Houston.

    Even though he would be doing the same thing he did with CLE/MIA, leave his former team for a better situation. Bet yall wouldn't have a problem with Lebron jumping ship this time, right? LOL
     
  11. justtxyank

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    Me too, but there's not anything either one of us can do about it.
     
  12. LabMouse

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    Is this too difficult to understand if you are a the rockets fan to have a problem for Lebron jumping to the rockets? In the same description, a heat fan likely loves LeBron rather than hates him. it is not funny, it is a real world.

     
  13. LabMouse

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    Lebron has a big mouth to talk lots, and Duncan keeps quiet, and just do his job.

    Lebron: not one, not two,,,,,, six, seven, eight.
    Lebron: I am the top four or five player all time.
    Lebron: I am the MVP this year.

    All things from his mouth, not from others.

     
  14. Angkor Wat

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    Yeah, when you don't want the best player in the world to join the team, its a bit difficult to understand.

    Ok you don't like some of the stuff Lebron says over the years. Because no NBA player has ever put his foot in his mouth. How does that effect his play on the court? Does he play hard every time or is he quitting on his team? Does he practice and put in off season work? Does he just party all the time and get in trouble when hes not on the court?
     
  15. JayGoogle

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    So did Muhammad Ali.

    Who cares, Lebron isn't Duncan and Duncan isn't Lebron. Let him be his own man, would be boring as hell if we had a league full of Duncans....and the NBA would seem like the WWE if we had a league full of Lebrons.
     
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    Can't we just say that Lebron is a great player with some flaws?
     
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    Lebron didn't choke -- he put up great numbers, but he didn't do anything special either -- he didn't have one of those career defining games where he put the team on his shoulders and won it on his own.

    Lebron has played 10 seasons now and turns 30 this year -- he might not be able to have all world games anymore. He looked exhausted this year in the finals.
     
  18. t_mac1

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    Yup, first time I've seen him look exhausted. I think playing all year (4 straight finals) and having to accomodate Wade's injuries caught up to him.

    He did shoot 58% in the playoffs (is that a record for a perimeter player?). I think he's still can have all world games. But he needs to manage his minutes throughout the season b/c he's going to have long playoff runs every year.
     
  19. LabMouse

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    Who cares? Some people care, that is why some people hate him. To me, I do not hate him, I do not hate a particular player, even a player like TMac, who was hated by many rockets fans. I like smart players who play smart ball. Duncan, Kidd, Dream, Parsons (a role play) etc come to my mind, boring is ok for me, but I like the winners.

     
  20. roslolian

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    LMAO weakest argument ever. First you're not even a celebrity what will be the point of you making televised press conferences? Secondly the decision actually raised money for charity and LBJ didn't make a cent off of it, something people conveniently forget. So what if he did it to boost his ego, are you saying you not getting annoyed at LBJ is worth more than the money he raised for charity? Finally brag about their greatness and future success all the time, just look at Facebook posts about promotions, graduations, selfies in exotic locations etc. The only diff is LBJ is a celebrity so his audience pretty much reaches everybody instead of friends and family. You are holding these athletes to criteria normal people don't even adhere to.
     

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