1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Open QB competition

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Two Sandwiches, May 27, 2014.

  1. The Cat

    The Cat Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2000
    Messages:
    20,802
    Likes Received:
    5,255
    :confused:

    Who exactly was available as a free-agent quarterback and 4th-round-or-lower QB that you would consider clearly superior to Fitzpatrick and Savage?
     
  2. conquistador#11

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    36,495
    Likes Received:
    23,293
    don't think it was ever "opened". He is a gunslingler still carrying a charleville musket. Hopefully our defense is back to 2011 form with more punch.
     
  3. Rip Van Rocket

    Rip Van Rocket Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    7,152
    Likes Received:
    356
    WTF? Training camp hasn't even started yet. Doesn't seem like it was much of a competition.
     
  4. Progs

    Progs Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2012
    Messages:
    4,140
    Likes Received:
    919
  5. Cannonball

    Cannonball Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2006
    Messages:
    21,659
    Likes Received:
    1,938
    IMHO, it's hard to criticize his choice of QBs because he's essentially opted to not make a choice. It's not like he's making a long term commitment to any of them. It really looks like he didn't see any franchise QBs in free agency and he didn't see any in the draft either (or that while he liked Bortles, he wasn't worth a #1 and he didn't like any QBs after that). So rather than trying to reach for somebody and commit to a player who doesn't deserve it just so they can have a nominal "franchise" QB, he's chosen to tread water until there's an opportunity to get a really franchise QB.

    Now, if you want to criticize him for THAT decision, to not take a risk in trying to find a franchise QB this year, then fine. But don't act like Fitzpatrick and Savage were "chosen" to be long term solutions and/or that we've committed to them and that's going to prevent us from looking for better options.

    Are we really going to be pissed that we signed Ryan Fitzpatrick instead of Matt Cassel? Is it really going to make that much of a difference?
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    64,843
    Likes Received:
    27,828
    It was an "open" competition that started with Fitz WAY ahead of everyone else. It was always his job to lose so this just means that no one performed other-worldly and that Fitz didn't look completely hopeless.
     
  7. Cannonball

    Cannonball Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2006
    Messages:
    21,659
    Likes Received:
    1,938
    Well, ideally, to get your team ready to the best of its ability in camp, you want to know who your starters are so that they can get the most reps in practice. If you know who your starting QB is, you'd rather him get the most reps in practice instead of splitting them equally with the other 2 QBs.

    And for a similar reason, it's likely that either Keenum or Yates will be cut before training camp. OB has said that it's hard to get 4 QBs reps in training camp, so one is likely gone before then.
     
  8. The Cat

    The Cat Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2000
    Messages:
    20,802
    Likes Received:
    5,255
    Precisely.
     
  9. Angkor Wat

    Angkor Wat Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2007
    Messages:
    13,148
    Likes Received:
    978
    lol @ fitz being safe with the ball
     
  10. rocketpower2

    rocketpower2 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    11,030
    Likes Received:
    2,393
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&amp;src=hash">#Texans</a> just released TJ Yates, source says</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/statuses/479018340434726913">June 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
  11. solid

    solid Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2001
    Messages:
    20,111
    Likes Received:
    7,340
    I wasn't judging, I was speculating. It is too early to judge. I thought it was too early to declare Newton and Fitz starters. We haven't even had training camp or one preseason game. I would have waited to declare starters right before the regular season. What can be learned from watching players standing around and throwing in shorts? What about waiting for game conditions?
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    64,843
    Likes Received:
    27,828
    Heh, I did say "best case scenario", doesn't mean it's likely.

    And boom goes the dynamite.
     
  13. Damion Laverne

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2010
    Messages:
    2,085
    Likes Received:
    1,811
    ALL HAIL RYAN FITZMAGIC
     
  14. Fyreball

    Fyreball Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Messages:
    14,979
    Likes Received:
    12,283
    I'd say it's more of a fizzle.....
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    64,843
    Likes Received:
    27,828
    Well it's the news we were waiting for, but it wasn't exactly surprising.
     
  16. solid

    solid Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2001
    Messages:
    20,111
    Likes Received:
    7,340
    I think I would have taken Vick or McCown over Fitz and certainly I would have taken Carr over Savage. I know it sounds crazy, but Vince Young looked good in Philley before he was cut. He could have been had for cheap and created quite a buzz.
     
  17. HillBoy

    HillBoy Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    8,629
    Likes Received:
    2,102
  18. sugrlndkid

    sugrlndkid Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    11,499
    Likes Received:
    1,691
    Something tells me that Keenum gets another chance sometime this season.
     
  19. HTown_DieHard

    HTown_DieHard Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2013
    Messages:
    4,050
    Likes Received:
    94
    fitz has never been on a team as good as schaub's.

    put schaub on those buffalo teams and you will see the same result as fitz.. probably worse.
     
  20. The Cat

    The Cat Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2000
    Messages:
    20,802
    Likes Received:
    5,255
    Carr wasn't available in the 4th round. He went early in the 2nd. If you wanted him, the comparison isn't merely vs. Savage -- it's against our starting left guard as well. It's very possible that the Texans preferred Carr to Savage, but weren't high enough on either to use an early pick. And if that's the case, good for them -- the worst thing you can do is waste a pick because you're desperately hoping someone is a position fit. And as far as McCown, the Texans arranged a visit with him, but he chose to sign in Tampa before he got here. That happens sometimes.

    With regards to why they made decisions now, it's because teams need to distribute reps properly in training camp. BOB can change his mind tomorrow, if new information presents itself. Should Keenum outplay Fitz significantly in camp/preseason, I'm quite confident Case would start Week 1. But BOB has now had several offseason events to evaluate his players, and he needs to give some training camp priority to the guys he thinks are most likely to start.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now