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[Game of Thrones] Season Four

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by GRENDEL, Jul 5, 2013.

  1. Indaface

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    Yea plus the fact that he started talking about killing the butchers boy among other things kinda rehashed why she originally hated him so much. So any chance of her feeling bad about his death went out the window.
     
  2. Master Baiter

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    Watch her Game of Thrones stuff, specifically the "Epic History" videos. There are no spoilers and she does a great job of explaining back story.

    She also has started doing recaps of all of the episodes that are good as well. She breaks them down scene by scene and gives additional back story with no spoilers.

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  3. DAROckets

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    I don't think she had any trust in Brianne ,especially once she told them Jamie had given her a gold handled valeryan sword
     
  4. cardpire

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    Don't forget, her "hit list" was a list of names of people that she was going to kill.

    She had the opportunity to kill the Hound, and she didn't, even with him attempting to bait her with reasons to do so.

    I really think there was more to it, and it wasn't simply her wanting to see him suffer. At minimum, even if she still had animosity, I would think he had done enough to get back in her good graces that she wouldn't want him to suffer a miserable death.

    After all, all he did was kill her friend on the King's Hand's orders, and based upon the lies that he was told.
     
  5. justtxyank

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    Clarification: It was not on the orders of the Hand of the King.
     
  6. hotballa

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    This is sadly the most exciting thread right now.
     
  7. cardpire

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    Whoops, thanks... I didn't mean that. Joffrey's orders...was it with or without the King's approval?
     
  8. justtxyank

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    I'm pretty sure it was done in a rash moment without the king even being present, but I don't recall 100%.

    It's hard to imagine King Robert ordering a child murdered when he felt bad about making Ned kill the dog.

    Edit: Noted exception of Dany, but that was a little different as he saw her as a threat to his crown and ultimately decided to rescind that order.
     
  9. Nero

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    I think Arya is going to turn into the equivalent of Lucy Liu's character in Kill Bill, that anime bit. Cold and deadly, completely fractured.
     
  10. Rocket River

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    Turn?
    She seems to be all that now

    Rocket River
     
  11. justtxyank

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    She's definitely fractured, but don't forget that her first thought when she got to that boat was to get to her brother at the wall. She isn't totally cold yet. She still wants her family.

    Her sailing off on that boat though was her leaving them behind. She's going to be her own person and take her life into her own hands. Up until now she has been relying on other people for her safety. Her father obviously, Syrio, Yoren and then The Hand. Now she is taking her life into her own hands because she is the only person she can count on not to die on her.
     
  12. Invisible Fan

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    I was hoping for a flash forward after all of the mayhem and setup in the first 2 seasons.

    Arya seems to be a good candidate to make good on her taking names but then utterly self destruct.

    I like her revenge arc is better than Dani given all of her "Judge Judy" scenes bog down her story even if it balances her out (with a hammer) as a queen who tries.

    I think part of it is that the series has a way of toeing urgency "Winter is Coming!" with ever creeping scope of newer side characters whom you have a feeling will be sacrificed to the pit of expendability ("no one is safe"). I mean, I didn't even know much about the psychic kid who was with Bran and sure nuff...
     
  13. crash5179

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    I agree. Since the time Ned has been beheaded she has been running from someone, running to someone or captured by someone and trying to get away. This is the first time in a very long time for her that she has been free to chose her own path. In leaving the 7 kingdoms she is finally free to exhale for a change. I think her sailing away on that ship was a huge moment for her in a symbolic sort of way.
     
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    I personally expect/hope Arya gets elevated next season as screentime goes. Other than Tyrion, Arya seems to be the most universally liked and interesting character that's still alive. Almost every single one of her scenes have been attention grabbing.

    I like many other book readers was hoping to see the character that was omitted, but that closing scene of Arya sailing off on her own, with the choral arrangement of the theme, was a spectacular close.
     
  15. JayZ750

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    I have not read the books.
    I have not scoured this thread.

    That said, I thought the finale was really really really good.
    I also though the Watchers of the Wall episode was fantastic. Much better than the Blackwater Bay single story episode, imo. Really enjoyed it all.

    Don't really have a ton of questions or "why did this do that, yada yada".
    Really enjoybale!
     
  16. Ottomaton

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    So, is there anything at all that would prevent Stannis from marching on King's Landing next season?

    It doesn't seem like there are a ton of competent people left in King's Landing - just a bunch of bootlickers and backstabers along the lines of what Slynt used to be before getting shipped off to the wall.
     
  17. sealclubber1016

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    The seemingly prissy Tyrells actually have the most powerful army in westeros, even with the leadership void, the combined forces of the Lannisters and Tyrells can't simply be pushed aside.
     
  18. crash5179

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    The Watchers on the Wall episode was my favorite in the series to date! To me it had it all. A lot of personal interaction between key characters and great action scenes. Jon Snow was really coming into his own as a swordsman and a leader.

    There were 4 scenes that stood out the most to me:

    - When Jon told Grenn to hold the inner gate. It was as if Grenn knew it was a suicide mission but when Jon stopped him and emphasized how important it was to hold the gate you knew Grenn was not going to let him down.

    - After Jon finished off Hammer Head and he was still slightly stunned from getting his head slammed on the anvil, he sees Ygrette with her bow drawn and ready to shoot. Suddenly its as if Jon forgets there is a battle raging around him and he doesn't even realize Ygrette has her bow drawn and ready to fire and he just smiles at her. It pauses Ygrette just long enough for Ollie to but an arrow in her back and it looks as if someone just sucked the life out of Jon. That was a really great scene.

    - The scene at the inner gate when Grenn did not let anyone abandon their post. The one guy starts crying for his parents and Grenn screams at him, "It's just the 6 of us damn you!" and then starts chanting their vows right up until the attack against the Giant. Definitely one of the strongest scenes in the series.

    - The last scene of the episode where Jon is going out to meet Mance and Sam is telling him what a bad plan it is. Jon stops and says, "Your right, its a bad plan. Whats your plan?" Then he pauses for a second as if he is hoping Sam really has a better plan while Sam just stares at him speechless then Jon turns and starts walking down the tunnel. The way that scene ended with Sam telling Jon to be sure and come back with Jon walking off into the light for some reason made me think of the movie Shane where the little kid is screaming at the end of the movie, Shane Come Back.

    I thought the visual effects were outstanding, particularly the the scene during the battle where the camera was spinning around the court yard to various scenes of people fighting. The scene on the wall when Jon first sees the signal fire was spectacular IMO.

    Overall I think it was the best episode in the series.
     
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    Just because Tywin is dead doesn't mean the Lannister army is suddenly gone. In between the Wall and Kings landing is the Flayed Men of Roose and Ramsey Bolton. There are the Iron Borne that are still attacking the north. There is still the issue of the White Walkers imminent attack. Stanis is still under manned even if the iron bank is now supporting his cause.

    There are many reasons I think Stanis can't just march his army south and attack Kings Landing.
     
  20. AFS

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    I think at that point she just didn't trust Brienne. She'd never met her before and it appeared as if Brienne was being paid off by the Lannisters.
     

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