Thank you. By the way, I'm through trying to convince posters that the theory posted by "Relentless" is not a spoiler. If they want to believe it they can. The funny thing is I went back as far as post 1500 in this thread and still haven't found a spoiler. The hypersensitivity is crazy in this thread and yet there are probably more posts complaining about spoilers than any other topic. It just seems ironic to me. Last season someone posted a spoiler about the Red Wedding and the thread went crazy bashing the guy. That was a well deserved bashing and that poster should have been banned or something. Maybe I haven't followed this thread closely enough this season but I have yet to actually see a spoiler in this thread. I'm not saying there has not been one but if there has I've missed it. I've seen a ton of "cardpire's" posts but have yet to see what initially set him off.
Loved the episode. So much going on. I didn't really care for Rob or Cat Stark, but I was bummed when Tywinn and the Hound met their fate. I liked those characters. They were actually intriguing and made things interesting. The fight between Brienne and the Hound was brutal. I don't blame Arya for running away. Brienne had those crazy eyes going. Bran Stark's trek better have a good payoff. Also the Red Woman wants John Snow bad. So lucky. Book readers are so selfish. Just no regard for human life. Quit bringing the book stuff into a show thread. Grow up and have some self control for next season.
the theory posted by relentless is not a spoiler. The only base it has is what some fans think will happen, never mentioned anywhere in the books.
There have been some spoilers this season (mostly about what would happen the next episode). Some were actually deleted. I understand that people are sensitive about spoilers. I do agree with you that some are seeing spoilers were there aren't any. And that is getting pretty annoying. At the beginning of the season people were excited to see the red viper, and I think it was oversensitive that people considered that a spoiler (I still do not understand how being excited to see a character could be seen as a spoiler).
THANK you. It is above and beyond. When you can't even post a "this is gonna be a great episode!" without getting a "why'd you do that, I'm an American, I have rights, I wanted to go into the episode cold, not knowing if it was gonna be mediocre, now I have to look forward to it, why can't you just go back to the GARM?", it does get a liiiiiiiiiittle annoying.
I didn't say it was a spoiler. It's a very popular theory based off tons of information in the book and not the show (which is what i said). It has no place in the tv show thread. You can b**** all you want about how the non-book-readers are too sensitive, but you are not a non-book-reader (nor am i) and apparently the non-book-readers hate it here because of assholes like Relentless.
Honestly I think it was how he posted his theory as much as the theory itself. I went back and re-read the post by "Relentless" and he initially stated it as fact. Possibly if he had started his post as "this is just a theory" then other posters would not have immediately started screaming about it.
This may be true. In fact, I don't doubt you at all. However, I think the real problem with how Relentless posted what he did was that is was just stated as a blunt fact, and as someone who has watched the show from the beginning, I can confirm that the blunt factual statement he made was NOT supported by what the show has given us. All we really know is that Jon Snow's mother's identity remains a secret. I think if Relentless had simply posed it as speculation, rather than as a blunt fact, nobody would have made a peep. Or, even better, posed it as a question - 'Who is Jon Snow's mother? And is Ned Stark even really his father? How do we know for sure?' And then gone on to speculate exactly what he said, there would have been nothing wrong with it at all. But, the way it was posted, it just LOOKED like someone who knew something from the books just laid a big fat rotten spoiler into the thread. And people are understandably touchy about that sort of thing..
I wasn't talking to you directly I was just quoting your post referring to book readers in general. But thanks for calling me an *******. And I'm tired of book readers in here trying to talk to show watchers like were little kids and need to be spoon fed all the information on what's a spoiler or not. If your asses would stop talking about crap then there wouldn't be an issue. We are here to discuss the tv show, if we ask questions we want other tv show watchers to discuss them with us. We don't need some guy coming in here with his little hints or acronyms trying to be cute. Maybe if the book readers weren't so damn smug about the fact they know everything and are generally the coolest guys in the world because they read the books and stayed in their own damn thread to discuss the show it wouldn't be such a b****fest here.
You are talking like every book reader is the same in this thread. It was obvious that the post by Relentless was a terrible post, But you also blame the posters Like Crash who want to reassure the people who have not read the books that they have not been spoiled. Should he (and others like me) have just let you all think that Relentless posted the truth (which might make you like the show less since you feel spoiled)? I agree with you that some posters hae posted annoying spoilers in this thread, but again that is the minority of book-readers in this thread. I love coming to this thread to see the reaction of people who do not know what will happen in advance. The reaction of the red/purple wedding and Ned and Red vipers death were amazing. I do agree that people should think before they post in this thread, and when a question is asked a book reader should only answer with information from the show. I do sense a lot of anger in your posts. And I think you are being to Harsh on Crash, he was helping not hurting.
I have no problem with book readers that come in and post and are give good backstory information. It's the jerks that ruin it. What angers me is that we are here to discuss a tv show but it becomes a b****fest (from us show watchers) and whineaboutbitching/spoiling (from book readers). The sad thing is there are a couple of others forums I frequent and this one has the least spoiling in it, yet we all see what the last few pages have become.
How many tv show watchers even know that Spoiler dany has Spoiler another brother? . Its never mentioned in the show.
Spoiler this, spoiler that, cry about this, cry about that. It's simple. If you read the book get the **** over to the other thread for book readers or go to the Spurs forum. ****ing book losers.
I like this thread. A lot. It's like I knew what lay behind the wall, and instead of listening to me or believing me, I was be-headed. Now errbody is getting slaughtered.
Thats a false statement. It's actually mentioned several times throughout the TV Series. I'm not sure why I'm spoiling this since if you have watched the series this should be common knowledge regardless if you have read the books. Spoiler It was mentioned multiple times both by Jorah and Barriston Selmy while talking to Dani. It has also been mentioned by others including the Viper this season when talking about his outrage and desire to kill the Mountain. We all know Dani is the Mad Kings daughter, we have known it since season one episode 1. We all knew Vesarys was the Mad Kings last surviving son since season 1 episode 1. We all know Rheagar was the Mad Kings son. Robert Baratheon talked about it multiple times in season 1, the Viper talked about it multiple times this past season since it was his sister that was married to Rheagar. Other people talked about it. If a show watcher does not know that Dani has 2 brothers (both dead) then they must have been in the crapper during a big chunk of the show.
This is simply not true as it is specifically discussed many times in the show. I can see how it would be difficult to follow if you do not know the full story because they go over many things very quickly. Examples off the top of my head: It is discussed how Robert went after Rhaegar at the Battle of the Trident. It is discussed how Rhaegar made Lyanna the Queen of Beauty at the Tourney at Harrenhal over his own wife, Elia Martell. This outraged many people. Daenarys asks Sir Friendzone about her family and he explains how she is more like her brother and Viserys is more like the Mad King.
It's not a spoiler in the sense that it isn't true yet obviously. It is a spoiler in the sense that it is a theory that has no basis on the show but MIGHT be hinted at as time goes by. People should be allowed to follow the show's reveals without someone tainting it with what they've gleaned from the books. If the show decides to go down a path that certain fan theories have sprung from, a show watcher should be able to get excited about putting clues together instead of having a book reader giving them the theory ahead of time. In that sense, it is a spoiler. Regardless, I still don't get why book readers can't just stop giving book information unless someone asks them for it.
It's actually not a secret on the show as far as the audience would know. In Season 1, episode 2 maybe, Robert and Ned are talking about the hot women they've met over the years. Robert needles Ned about the one woman who made the great Ned Stark break his vows and asks what her name was. He then says something like "You know, your b*stard's mother." Ned responds with the name and then says he doesn't want to talk about her. The show has never given anyone any reason to believe Jon Snow is anyone but Ned Stark's b*stard son by way of a woman he cheated on his wife with. The only other time there was any in depth discussion is when Ned Stark says "You may not have my name, but you have my blood." No where has it ever been teased that there may be more to Jon Snow's parentage than meets the eye.
