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2014 World Cup - Brazil

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by ivenovember, Dec 3, 2013.

  1. ferrari77

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    Yeah you're overrating Algeria. I've seen enough of them to know they're a decent side but Nigeria is a better side. We'll see how it goes vs Iran, Bosnia & Argies and how it goes for Algeria vs Belgium, Russia & S.Korea but there's a reason Nigeria are the African champions and not Algeria. Algeria were extremely lucky to even qualify for the World Cup. Some Algerians might disagree w/me but it's the truth.
    You mentioned Algeria has talented speedy players- that applies to Nigeria too.
    The problem for Nigeria has never been talent or speed.

    Now as for S. Korea being > Iran, obvy there's no point me debating that, it's true.
     
  2. ferrari77

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    Huh? But you know he's talking about Mexico right? Everyone watching the match knows they were incorrectly denied two goals(which would have helped re. goal difference if it comes down to Mex vs Croatia) and it didn't have anything to do w/technology. You must have been sleep typing breh :grin:
     
  3. SexyButIgnorant

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    I'm in the minority, but gio dos santos' first goal was offside to me. The second goal was completely understandable to mess up. Looked like a mexican headed the ball, which would have made him offside. but the cameroon player barely hit it. understandable.
     
  4. Stack24

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    Come on now, we are the top ranked team in Asia. Don't completely rule us out just yet :)
     
  5. ferrari77

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    Lol not ruling Iran out. I guess S.Korea got past them in the AFC Cup but Iran beat S.Korea home and away in WCQ. It really is a dangerous group as well that they are in with Bosnia, Nigeria and Argentina and Iran being there also makes it dangerous. Gotta give your team some props :)


    Iran should be psyched by this...I just realized that so far the champions of S.America, Europe and Asia have all lost. Uruguay, Spain, Japan. That is not good news for Nigeria and the USA.
     
  6. ferrari77

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    Eto'o is out injured for Cameroon's next match vs Croatia.

    Might as well give the win to Croatia (Unless Eto'o is a cause of strife in the Cameroonian team and they go on to win without him playing. Likely he could be a bad teammate as he's been in the past, not likely they'll win with or without him lol) .
     
  7. Stack24

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    Was busting your balls a bit lol. We have a long way to go. We need points coming out of the Nigeria game tomorrow. Also need Argentina to win out going forward to give us some chances.

    I'm not expecting any miracles, but a good showing would be nice.
     
  8. daywalker02

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    yeah but you don't have topstars like in the past

    Ali Karimi, Ali Daei, Minavand......

    Javad Nekounam who plays for Kuwait was third place in AFC Champions League. He comes close being a star.
     
  9. daywalker02

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    Algeria has a lot of players playing competitive football in Europe.

    They just can't score a decent amount of goals.
    They held England to a draw last tournament.
     
  10. daywalker02

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    That Joel Campbell guy and Enner Valencia surprised me.
     
  11. SwoLy-D

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    You probably don't know the rule. It states that the attacker cannot be in a position gaining advantage and that there should be at least 2 defenders closer to the goal before being involved in the play. That clearly wasn't the case with both calls, which were correct.

    You probably have never read THE RULES OF THE GAME. You have to beat the other team with skills, not with "close calls."

    I've captured these two images from the highlights directly from the FIFA Highlights video:

    1st Offside, GIO is clearly the same distance to the end line as the judge, and closer than two defenders, as is the case in the second frame.
    FIRST CALL
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    LABELED:
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    SECOND CALL
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    LABELED:
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    No. I know the rules. CORRECT CALLS on Mexico's offside calls.

    I know it's MY TEAM but the line judge made the right call. :eek: FAIR is FAIR no matter what team it is, and even if we were to lose because of those calls, I'd say we weren't better to be up by more.
     
  12. leroy

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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Vh_sD1L_Qew" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  13. SwoLy-D

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    It doesn't matter if a Mexican or Cameroon player headed it. The ball was played deliberately to try to attack by MEXICO on the corner kick, but it was deflected in a way that placed the attacker in a position of advantage. And he was penalized. You and the line judge were right.

    IF a defender deliberately passes it BACK to a goalie or to another defender, and the attacker is in an offside position gaining advantage, he will not be penalized because it was not played by a teammate.

    Man, am I the only one that knows the LAWS?!?!? :confused:
     
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    I would guess that you don't know the laws that well because on the second goal, the ball is played from a corner kick which means Dos Santos is onside at the moment the ball is kicked. Whether or not he is offside the moment the ball is headed by the defender does not matter. The heading by the defender doesn't make Dos Santos offside. The linesman made a mistake and thought the ball was deflected by the Mexican player.

    That would be like a midfielder playing a through ball in the air to an attacker that is onside, then as a last ditch effort the defender is able to head it yet it still lands at the feet of the attacker that is a couple of yards past the defender. Would he be considered offside there? No he would not.
     
  16. SwoLy-D

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    ^ No, he would not be called offside because he was not in a position gaining advantage when the ball was played to him.

    Indaface, I'm sorry, but you must read the little black book, page 115, example 11, which reads:[rquoter]An attacker in an offside position (B) is penalised for playing or touching the ball that rebounds, is deflected or is played to him from a deliberate save by a player from the defending team (C) having been in an offside position
    when the ball was last touched or is played by a team-mate.[/rquoter]The ball was played to him, and deflected by a defender (or could have been passed by a teammate). Gio was in an offside position.

    :eek: PLEASE read the book. I'm not making this up. It's that he's gaining an advantage in a position to score. Don't you know it's cherry-picking?

    Man, I love schooling y'all on the LAWS.
     
  17. Indaface

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    ^^He was ONSIDE when the corner kick was taken....that's all that matters. If he was standing in the goal then came back out you would be right. But the point is he was onside when the corner was taken and the only other thing that happened was the defender headed the ball which would not put him offside (unless he was offside when the corner was taken).

    Bring out your rulebook and claim to be schooling yet you are completely wrong.
     
  18. SwoLy-D

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    ^ Absolutely Correct! ^ Great point.
    NOPE. The last action was the deflection and at that point Gio was gaining advantage. :grin: That's what matters.

    The same thing happened at the South Africa World Cup in 2010 (see the video linked). This time, however, the deflection was by a teammate, but that doesn't matter. Example 11 I quoted above is a "deflection" regardless of teammate or defender.
     
  19. Yung-T

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    Interesting line-up for Germany today.

    Götze-Müller-Özil
    Kroos-Lahm-Khedira
    Höwedes-Hummels-Mertesacker-Boateng
    Neuer
     
  20. Cypress

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    Interesting indeed:eek:.
     

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