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As Carmelo Anthony leans toward leaving New York, Chicago and Houston emerge as frontrunners

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by t0mdotcom, Jun 14, 2014.

  1. PhatPharaoh

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    exactly, and of those teams, both Chi/GS have better packages than us. Also, there are several teams such as SAC that are willing to trade for him regardless of his willingness to resign with them. I think Love would obviously be the best fit of any player to fill our need at PF, but the chances of that happening are extremely low at best. Melo is a much more realistic acquisition and can instantly catapult us into championship contention.
     
  2. ArtV

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    I'd take Love but Love is not a FA. And I don't know that anything short of Harden would make minny bite. While I think there is no doubt he will be traded, they are going to get some serious offers.

    I wanted Milsap last year but this is 2014 and he's a Hawk. You act like Atlanta is just going to let him go for Asik or Lin or even Parsons. I personally don't think they're that interested in any thing we have as he was one of the few bright spots on their roster last year.

    Lowry would be nice and I like the concept of a balanced roster, but Lowry has to want to come here. Who knows what his cost would be but I do think you'd end up overpaying to get his attention. Brooks likes coming back. I'm not sure Lowry feels the same way.

    Melo is obtainable and who knows what the future holds. But having 3 real all-stars brings notoriety. And usually with notoriety comes better prospective coaches and FAs.
     
  3. Huricane

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    The logic that says, teams that win Championships also play solid defense. If I have a guy that does not play defense, I have to go out and get another guy that can play defense to compensate for another players deficiency.

    I understand what you are saying. Players for the most part get paid for certain visible statistics, such as points, assists and rebounds. Defense is harder to measure, and when teams bid on players and salaries are negotiated, the primary factors that determines what a player is offered is a combination of a players production in regards to points, assists and rebounds.

    It is just my way of saying there are better ways of spending 20 million than on Carmelo because that is the cost to get him. If we do sign Carmelo, then we still have to go out and sign someone to compensate for his deficiencies on defense. That would cost anywhere from 6 to 10 million. Patrick Beverly can not defend forwards and Howard can't nullify all the times Camelo's guy will drive by him. Think of every single forward going off like LaMarcus did against us in the Portland series.
     
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    Reports keep floating, ok rumors? BS? that there are teams (Kings, Cavs) who will trade for KLove with NO assurance of future return.

    Who the hey knows what the facts are besides Saunders???
     
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    Is that all you are giving up tho? Parsons, he isn't gonna play the 4, he's too small. He isn't gonna come off the bench. Will Anthony be a point 4?
     
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    As great as that sounds I just can't picture lbj coming here next season. Nice thought but I'll set my sights on melo.


    I hope I'm wrong though..
     
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    If ginobili can come off the bench parsons can. We can play him starters minutes but start the game w/ him coming off the bench
     
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    Bev, Harden, Parsons, Melo, and Dwight would be the starting 5..
     
  9. sirbaihu

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    Melo will never win anything if he goes to Chicago. I think that will sink shortly.
     
  10. bmd

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    I think he'd be great in Chicago. That team is already great on defense. Adding Melo and having Rose come back would be a huge jolt for their offense.

    Plus they play in the East. They'd have almost a guaranteed spot in the WCF.
     
  11. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Yeah except there's the Miami Heat and Rose's knee. Also Bulls fans don't trust their own owner, and ownership has problems with the coach.

    There are plenty of great reasons for Melo to join the Bulls, but what you're listed here is no guarantee they'll get past the Pacers much less the Heat and then the Spurs.
     
  12. Ming The King

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    Sam Amick: Staggering in terms of the price (Carmelo) would pay to go to Miami. Heat would need 4 years 55 mil. I don't see them doing it. Houston & Chicago are very real. Houston will be extremely aggressive. Still some hope (from Houston) that LeBron gets frustrated in Miami and they believe they're the best possible option.

    So,
    there is chance?
     
  13. jacoby

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    Morey is seriously trying to get LeBron James?

    LOL... No wonder every other team hates our management.
     
  14. bmd

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    There's only 2 good teams in the East. Heat and Pacers.

    They just have to beat 1 to get to the WCF. Indiana sucked for the second half of the year this year. Miami wasn't as good as they've been the past couple years. Those teams seem to be on the decline.

    Melo coming to Houston means he has to deal with the Spurs, Thunder, Memphis, Clippers, Portland, etc. There is much more uncertainty in the West.

    If I was him and wanted to get to the Finals, I'd go to Chicago. But of course I'd rather he choose Houston.
     
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    LeBron?

    More like wishful/hopeful thinking.

    Very likely staying in Miami.
     
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    Rose is done man... he's Brandon Roy 2.0. I can all but guarantee that he won't be an all star caliber player again.

    Joakim Noah is overrated too--good player, but more of a borderline all star/low tier all star than a legit superstar.

    You add Melo to that team, they probably get a top 3 seed in the Least, but they won't win a championship.
     
  17. Spacemoth

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    I feel like the East let Lebron down this year though. Playing through that cupcake schedule all through the season and even in the playoffs gave the Heat absolutely NO opportunity to ramp up their level of play. By the time they were done with Indiana, they thought they'd made it...only to get trounced by San Antonio by 15 in Game 1. It's all a result of not being able to get their intensity, their overall efficiency on offense and defense, to the level it needed to be at going into the playoffs.

    I've maintained that stance the entire year, and it certainly played out that way. In some regards you like an easy road to the Finals. In others, you need to face SOMEBODY before the finals. You can't just go from 30mph to 80 like that. And there aren't enough games for you to lose in the Finals before you can catch your second wind and start punching back.

    The championships will keep coming out of the West if the East stays this awful. Why do you think the NBA gave the East the #1 2 and 3 picks this year?
     
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    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Actually they might have to play both Indiana and Miami. But let's say they only have to beat 1. Then whoever is in the Finals. So that's 2.

    He would only need to beat two of the Western teams you mentioned, then whoever is in the Finals. If, as you say, Heat are in decline then the third should not be a big problem playing with this squad.

    Now would you rather face those two teams with Chicago's lineup, which is likely to have little or no depth, or would you rather go with Houston's line-up where the 5th best starter is NBA All Defense second team and the owner has already committed to spending over the luxury tax for championships?

    If Rose is 80% of what he was, the Bulls will be overmatched against the Pacers. If Noah and Rose's injury history persists, Melo may have given up a boatload of money to be no closer to a title than he was. Whereas, let's say we lose James Harden to a suspension for 50 games or whatever. This squad would still be excellent and one year older.

    On top of that, the Rockets have far more avenues to improve their team. For example, OKC will never pay the luxury tax. If the Heat and Pacers are in decline, then the Grizzlies are finished. Spurs are old, though the Spurs are the Spurs. The entire team will retire next summer if not this summer.

    All Melo cares about is winning, and in the game of winning the only thing Chicago has over Houston is their coach. Their difference in the path to the finals is the difference between Brooklyn and Portland. Meh. He would be on a far more talented team, and our organization has already recognized that the coaching must be upgraded ASAP, and our ownership has shown a far greater commitment to winning and our core is far more reliable to keep his window open for 3 years minimum. To top it all off, we still own all our first round picks and the only one that has been discussed for trade is this year's #25.

    If Rose was proven healthy, I could see it. But even Rose can't tell us right now how it's going to turn it out.
     
  19. rhino17

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    Melo is a 4, so I don't get why people are unsure about that, he has been a 4 for a couple seasons now
     
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