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[Woj] Houston plans to pursue Kevin Love

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Swishh, May 18, 2014.

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  1. vator

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    Hope this is true so they can move on and start focusing on Plan B. All we've been hearing for a year is about how Morey wants to go after Love in 2015.
     
  2. FTW Rockets FTW

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    In before troll saying assets can only get you Harden and trade Harden for Love
     
  3. Sooner423

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    Would Love re-sign with that team without Bledsoe or Dragic?

    Also, could the Rox become a third team in that trade to pick up either of those guys?
     
  4. Carl Herrera

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    He is joining Lebron, Wade and Bosh in Miami.
     
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  5. bluffkin

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    Nothing to see here anymore, it's Melo or wait for 2015 FA.
     
  6. D-rock

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    Probably replaces Bosh. Although Heat is not one of the stated preferred teams. Interesting since we know he wants to play with Lebron.
     
  7. Haymitch

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    Pretty sure I've read on here that Asik is a top 5 center and that Lin would produce like Dragic/Parker if in the right system. So I think trading a top 5 C and a top 5 PG should be enough for Love.
     
  8. dobro1229

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    Thank you Sam for stating the truth. The Rockets were never able to come to the table seriously for Love from the get go. Too many teams with real assets have been willing to gamble on Love from the start.

    and Parsons is not nearly as available as some here would lead to believe.

    Harden..... HAHAHAAHA.... if you believe the trolls on here that the Rockets would trade him for anyone other than Lebron or Durant than you are making the most obnoxious LOF look like Albert F-Ing Einstein. Harden isn't getting traded.

    Valiant effort Morey, but its obvious that his sights are set more on competing with the Bulls for Melo.
     
  9. hooroo

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    Lin just keeps giving.
     
  10. Carl Herrera

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    Naive people taking rumors leaked to reporters at face value. This is a clear case of Houston posturing in order to obtain an asset in addition to Love in return for Harden.
     
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  11. HardenWay

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    How dumb are you guys? Off course we don't have the assets now. Have you ever heard of a team trading for assets to make a trade? Or 3 way trades? 4 way trades?

    Also don't you guys understand that this far out GM's will leak **** to put themselves in a better position? So Minny could leak a story like this to send a message to Houston that they will need to aquire more value?

    Now this Sam Amick tweet specifically doesn't say the Wolves won't deal with Houston. It says Houston know they don't have the assets right now to get him, indicated they are clearly interested in moving guys they have now for better assets.
     
  12. ForTheWinYes

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    How did Dwight Howard end up in LA?
     
  13. daywalker02

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    The irony of this is Houston's game of outgunning other teams.
    Now they feel themselves outgunned

    Time to consider other players
     
  14. Jayzers_100

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    Makes me view this dangling of Parson's option as our bargaining chip for the primary "asset" in the Love trade...now that Minny has called our bluff, I'm sure Les & Morey have second thoughts about passing up a final year of Chandler for cheap. Personally, I think Bosh is the ideal Plan B. As mentioned before, I think Melo would swoop in at the 4 spot, making Bosh replaceable. The Heat will finally sign a legit C to shore up their frontcourt...I just don't see Carmelo skipping the opportunity to play with Lebron, as unfortunate as that may be.
     
  15. hooroo

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    comphrehension? amick's info specifically pertains to the rockets.

    if you've followed the nba/rockets close enough in the last several years you'd know amick has an inside source in the rockets org.
     
  16. houstonstime

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    no way

    There is no way Lebron, Wade, and Bosh all take ~7 mil a year pay cuts and Melo takes a ~10 mil pay cut. And they definitely won't do that if they win this year.
     
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    If Love is going to be traded on draft night then the Rockets are definitely in the running for him.

    While Boston has more assets, Boston cannot get a third star without moving out Green and Wallace. At this point Green and Wallace have 2 seasons left on their deals. That is $38 million. Boston would have to trade away AT LEAST 3 of their accumulated draft picks to move out that much salary.

    Why is that important? Well because even after next season, those 2 guys are still owed $19 million. That will require at least 1 and most likely 2 picks for Boston to move those guys out then. So, if Boston trades for Love, and Rondo and Love re-up next summer for basically max deals....($20+ million each)...then Boston has to clear Wallace and Green to sign a 3rd max free agent. Otherwise they are stuck with Rondo, Love, Bradley, Green, Wallace, and whatever else. Now that's a nice team. But that's all it is, just a nice team. They won't win anything in 15-16 with that lineup. They'll have to wait until summer of 16 to try to add a 3rd piece then.

    And from Minny's perspective they have NO REASON to be interested in Green and Wallace. Green and Wallace don't help them win anything, and for sure won't get them to the playoffs replacing Love. But they would clog up Minny's cap. Minny has absolutely NO REASON to want either guy.

    So when you analyze the situation from a player's perspective....if they go to Boston, Boston is tapped out. They have no chance of winning anything this upcoming season. And then after that Love or whomever has to cross their fingers that Boston can come up with another big time player.

    So, if a player really wants the ultimate opportunity to win something next year Boston is down on the list.

    Now from Minny's perspective....what good is it to them to have a whole pile of first round draft picks, most likely in their 20's, plus #6, plus a cap clogging contract? What kind of plan is that for Minnesota to be a playoff team? A bunch of rookies and Wallace and Green around Rubio and Pek. Players stacked up on the wings waiting their turn for minutes. No real PF. No defensive answers around Rubio. It's a stupid hodge-podge of nothing. No cap space. And then Rubio comes up on free agency. Rubio ain't staying around for that noise.

    And Flip knows all these things. That's why Flip is talking right now that he ain't going to trade Love. Because the deals that are on the table for Love actually make Minnesota worse now and in the long run. Flip is looking for a core around Rubio. He needs 2 guys around Rubio that represent All-Star star/superstar level players to go with Rubio. Not Wallace and/or Green.


    So there's the huge rub with the Celtics.


    And Morey hasn't put his cards on the table yet. Morey is going to make a run at Love on draft night provided Lebron James or Chris Bosh hasn't made it known that they want Houston. Morey may not get him but he's going to make a big time run for Love. And if he doesn't get him a trade or trades will probably unfold to go after Melo either through free agency signing or sign-and-trade.
     
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  18. finsraider

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    Just my opinion, but the more I look at a potential Chicago/Minnesota deal, the more it makes sense for both teams and Love.

    Chicago can give Minnesota Boozer's expiring, Mirotic (Spain connection), and load them up with a handful of picks. Other players can be thrown in to make it work, or Chicago can take back one of Minnesota's several $5 million players.

    Minnesota then has the flexibility to make a run at Marc Gasol in 2015, forming a Spanish trio of Rubio/Mirotic/Gasol. This also allows them to get rid of Pekovic for another nice player, perhaps even a SnT with the Griz for Gasol.

    Love goes to an organization with a good history and a "name" city. Also, if Rose can't return to form, Love can just leave in 2015 free agency. Of course this means Chicago won't give Minnesota everything, just in case Love walks.

    Makes sense all around.
     
  19. Ziggy

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    Neither makes more sense to me than GSW.
     
  20. finsraider

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    Don't see it.

    I assume the trade you envision is Lee + Thompson + Barnes for Love.

    David Lee is overpaid for what he does, his contract lasts for another 2 years, and he's a horrible fit next to Pekovic.

    Thompson is a nice young player, but repetitive when you have Kevin Martin, Chase Budinger, and Corey Brewer. IMO, he's on a similar level as Parsons....ie a borderline all-star, but not a "get you over the hump" type guy.

    Barnes value regressed this year.

    GSW has no picks to trade.

    Again, just my opinion, but I think Boozer on a shorter contract, Mirotic, another player and/or getting rid of one of their mid-level guys, and some ok picks is worth more.
     
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