What are your Predictions for the Rockets Offseason?

My prediction is that whatever happens, most people here will b**** and complain about it & communicate their disdain for half the players on the team, especially the stars, and the coaches, and Morey will be enemy #1 for not delivering or delivering the player YOU dont want.

Bring out the pitchforks. We are Rockets fans.

 

Would be a logical course of action, but Philly holds the 10th pick in the draft, not the 13th.

Its only 3 spots forward, but it makes a big difference in this draft. I doubt Philly is willing to give up a lottery pick in this draft giving the way their team is built right now.

However.... I do think Philly would love to snag Asik for something next year. Given so many young players, I think they do want to have someone there that will make life easier on the young players on the defensive end & wont take away touches offensively. He's also on a great contract for them being that its very short term.

In this scenario, I think its more likely to see a 2015 first rounder LOTTERY PROTECTED get sent back to the Rockets or a 3rd team. A team trading for it knows its going to be several years before the Sixers are a playoff team so its an asset they can hold onto for future trades.

Much like the Dallas pick the Rockets got in the Derrick Fisher trade, those picks hold pretty good value because they can be considered a nice pick to use for future trades because they know they can hold onto it for awhile & the value wont go down. I think that would be a good "type" of pick to look to hope to get in an Asik trade.

 

Don't forget that Philly also has a TON of 2nd round picks. Some of them might be pretty high. A number of those could be included in any trades.

 

I wish lol

 

I predict at least four players new to the team.


Two via trade with Asik & Lin going out (other assets may be added) , one of those incoming being a star / quasi star much like Harden was prior to coming to the Rockets.

Doing so via trade preserves their cap exceptions as well as allows them to take back more salary than simply clearing cap space and signing a player - 125%+100k rather than face value of the cap space cleared.


Then retain Parsons , the numbers really don't matter as they are over the cap at this point.

Then two more with their salary exceptions , who's positions will depend mostly upon who they get in return for Asik / Lin.

They can add four very good players to this roster while keeping Parsons if they can get someone chasing a ring with that smaller cap exception.

 

This makes perfect sense for several reasons.

1. Once the 2014 draft pick is made it starts to lose trade value the same way when you buy a new car it depreciates as soon as you drive it off the lot..especially a pick in the bottom portion of the lottery.

2. A future pick in 2015 makes trades a lot easier to consumate if made after the July Moratorium. (No cap hold hassle.)

3. Philly can put conditions on the 2015 pick based on Asik re-signing there long-term. In other words, if he re-signs in Philly then the draft pick can be as high as #10 in 2015 but if he doesn't re-sign in 2015 then the pick is protected for picks 1-20 and will only be conveyed if it is lower then 20. You can't put those conditions on a pick that's already been made.

Ummmm, if Philly gets Asik and Lin and Wiggins or Parker and possibly even another player using either #10 or possibly using MCW, #25, and #10 to move up to #4 or #5 ....... they will be challenging for a playoff spot .... in 2014/15. And most definitely in 2015 they will likely be entering the free agent market on top of having a dynamic core already in place and will most definitely be challenging for a playoff spot in the East in 2015-16.

Bingo

 

I'm predicting we see a whole 'lotta Ron Paul

 

Had no idea they can put those types of conditions on a future pick. Very interesting. Can you think of any conditions on a pick made before in the past to compare to?

Also - Side note- Keep in mind that the Dallas pick (acquired from the Fisher trade/LAL) was originally acquired as part of a deal to send Lamar Odom in the last year of his deal to the Mavericks.

IMO this is a eerily similar situation(slightly less butt-hurt but still...) and a player of similar (albeit much different) impact, making almost exactly the same amount of money against the cap (8.2). Just keep thinking about that pick in the back of my mind as an example of what a market value pick could look like for Asik.

I have a feeling Philly is going to be my go-to League Pass team next year. The forgotten man is really Nerlens Noel. In his one year at Kentucky he was really taking off & showing some pretty amazing potential right before he went down.

I also saw some rumors this morning that Philly is trying to move down with the 10th pick so I fully expect a big turnaround from Hinkie & Philly. Should be fun to watch & they def. can turn it around fast, but I wonder next year about how many role players Hinkie will be willing to sign.

I think he looks to take advantage of trying to get a solid big man on a short term contract next year, maybe Varejao or Asik, but I can't see them adding too many veterans to help them compete on the defensive end especially. Should be a fun team to watch though.

 

Go root for another team dude. Just when I think your posts can't get worse or have less substance, you prove me wrong.

You're shameful. Get out

 

It's a joke man. Breathe slowly. Laugh.

 

You are correct sir.

 

1. Lowry sign and trade to Houston for Lin plus picks plus maybe one of TJones/DMo.

2. Asik (plus maybe TJones/DMo) traded for Milsap.

3. 1 or 2 free agents signed with MLE, maybe Papanikolaou.

 

These are the type of moves I expect ... but I'd rather keep T.Jones than bring in Milsap as he really doesn't make the team better defensively and that's where the improvement needs to come from at that position.

They don't have a problem scoring , they have a problem defending. Any player they replace Jones with needs to be able to defend & rebound at a high level while being efficient offensively.
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Would Morey settle for a player like Luol Deng, or Spencer Hawes if the Rockets could clear out Asik and Lin and be able to sign Parsons to a long term deal? I don't get any sense that Anthony wants to be on Houston.

 

My plan B after no Melo/Dirk/Bosh/Lebron/Love would be Lowry and Deng. Deng by himself is not enough but if you can somehow add both by trading away Asik, Lin, DMo, and # 25 with the cap going up you might be able to hit their number and then resign Parsons.

 

Plan B is simple.

1. Trade #25 for a future pick.

2. Trade Omer Asik for a future pick(s) and either a player on a good value contract or as large an expiring contract or non-guaranteed 2015 contract as possible. Suggestions: Thad Young and Jason Richardson and 2 picks or Paul Millsap and Lou Williams and 2 picks. (We'll have to throw in a couple non-guaranteed contracts to make those deals.)

3. Hold Jeremy Lin until the trade deadline when his contract becomes at least neutral and doesn't require sending out picks to trade and may possibly yield a pick back to us in a trade.

4. Trade for Brendan Haywood using some combination of T_ones and/or DMo. Doesn't matter how as long as we don't give up a pick and possibly get a pick back but get Brendan Haywood on the roster.


Do not spend the MLE. Sign guys to minimum salary deals with second season non-guaranteed.


Hold serve until the trade deadline.

 

It's hella annoying and he's become an all-out troll. I too wish that he would just go away.

 

then what about they get rid of Asik for Greg Oden?

 

He's feisty at time but his upside far outweighs his downside. I'd take him over thousands of other posters here, name the LOHs and LOFs. Carl knows his basketball.

 

With Parsons becoming restricted and all possibilities of a 2015 FA gone, its clear that the Rockets are done with Lin and Asik. Them expiring next year becomes worthless to us so it's clear that they need to be gone now. So obviously the Rockets will go after a big name in FA or trade. I believe once they settle on someone, it will be a S&T rather than straight up signing to maintain our MLE.

The order in which the Rockets will go after these players.

Plan A: Any star that's willing to come here. Already discussed ad nausem so I won't bother.

Plan B: Lesser players. I don't think they'll go after Deng. Old, injury prone, can't shoot the 3. They're not getting him. I think they will make an offer to Lowry, but not one that breaks the bank and Lowry likely re-signs with the Raptors. I do believe they'll make a serious run at Stevenson. Probably not max money but at least Parsons type money.

Plan C: If all else fail, they will make a run at an overpaid not-star that expires in 2 years. Something out of the left field. Along the lines of a OJ Mayo for Jeremy Lin type of move. Basically a talented player in a bad situation that the Rockets may feel can improve on a better team.

No matter what, I predict the Rockets will not more or less stay put. The roster is going to be overhauled regardless of how the top FAs shake out.