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Jon Singleton up! Agrees to 8-year, $35 million deal.

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by rocketpower2, Jun 2, 2014.

  1. donkeypunch

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    is it just me or does springer look like he belongs on easter island?
     
  2. meh

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    I think it's something more simpler. Which is, when negotiating with owners for the CBA, the union is more likely to give up rights of young, not-yet-in-union players than they are rights of vets. If you have to give up something to get something, the union will give up rights of future union members to gets something for the current ones.
     
  3. Nick

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    First of all, they do anticipate most of the players drafted high, or all highly touted prospects, to one day be a member of the union. If their contract negotiations or early extensions or arbitration numbers start affecting the monetary value for the contracts the veterans eventually get, they most definitely will start caring about the young players.

    That being said, I still stand by my statement (which was more "simpler" than yours)... the union will always care about the players who bring in the most money (and those are, by the current agreement, the veterans or players who test free agency).
     
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  4. meh

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    History would point to the exact opposite, given how little drafted/international signings are making now compared to before.
     
  5. juicystream

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    Because they want their members to get a bigger portion of the pie.
     
  6. moonnumack

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    Man, these young guys just seem to have much more powerful swings than the guys we've been watching the last few years. Singleton crushed that ball to get his 1st grand slam.
     
  7. Buck Turgidson

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    I thought this was obvious, the MLBPA does not give a **** about pre-FA players.
     
  8. No Worries

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    The people with the gold make the rules. Same old, same old.
     
  9. J.R.

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    Contract working out for Jon Singleton after criticism

     
  10. sealclubber1016

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    This was always stupid of the union to complain about. They are worried about making sure their super rich guys, become super super rich instead of worrying about guys who are gonna have to get 9-5's if they fail.

    In Forrest Gump there was a line that you only need so much money the rest is just for showing off. Singleton had a chance to guarantee that him and his family had a life changing payday from this sport. It's a bad gamble for any player to risk that for a chance to financially show off down the line.

    If he ever became a great player, he was gonna be stupidly rich one way or the other. The Union is always too busy worrying about the 5%, screw the other 95.
     
  11. juicystream

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    The irony being Unions are designed to help to help those lower level workers.

    The Union puts itself in the position to have players accept deals like that because later round draft picks don't get the huge bonuses, and then they make small amounts in the minors. Then they have to wait 4-5 years to get on the 40 man roster where they finally get a decent salary (only about $40K for that 1st season). If they don't make it at least 3 years in the majors, they never get more than the minimum.

    On the plus side, they give great benefits. Apparently 1 day in the majors gets you lifetime health coverage and 43 days gets you into the pension plan.

    Makes you know just how valuable that phone call to the bigs is, even if it just a very short period.
     
  12. jim1961

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    How many AAAA guys have a contract like his? Of course its worked out for Jon.
     
  13. sealclubber1016

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    The thing is, there was virtually no scenario in which this ended up as a disaster for Singleton. There is no financial advisor in the world that would tell you to turn down 10 million guaranteed given the possible downside not taking it. If he turned out great, he would have still made plenty of dough after this contract was up.

    The Union has repeatedly made a habit of bullying the young players, the priorities are so stupidly out of whack.
     
  14. Nick

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    Do you know how much their dues are? I believe it was on that Andrew Mccutcheon paycheck image that's been going around.... something like 2-3K per month.

    They certainly get great benefits, but it comes at a cost as well (moreso to the younger players who make comparatively very little).
     
  15. Nimo

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    ...except if you feel you could get $15 million. Perhaps deep inside Jon knew the chances were slim of him outplaying that contract.
     
  16. Air Langhi

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    Springer said no. They said other guys did too as well. Even a crappy MLB player makes bank. If you don't think you are going to be a crappy MLB player well then what does that say about you.
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    I wonder how this affects motivation?

    We all know about contract years
     
  18. Mr. Clutch

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    Yeah, I think most guys turn these deals down
     
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    http://forwardtimesonline.com/2013/...-signs-long-term-deal-with-the-houston-astros

    Bet these guys would love to have that offered again.:eek:
     
  20. vince

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    Singleton was smart, he took the bird in the hand, instead of 100 million in the bushes!!!!

    But these type of contracts were offered to quite a few guys. I remember hearing how Grossman turned down an 8 million dollar contract. Jason Castro said no to a nice $$$ million dollar extension. Matt Dominguez turned down the Astros (what was he thinking!!! :eek:) And of course Springer said no to a contract extension.

    It almost seams that the players and agents are helping out the Astros, by not stealing the Astro's Money!

    What a disaster it would be if Matt Dominguz, Grossman, Singleton, and Castro were expected to carry the offensive load!
     

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