Yes, that is the only real interest she holds for me. But that isn't enough for me to be as excited about her appearance in the season let alone as the big reveal to end this season. It looks like my opinion of Lady Stoneheart is definitely in the minority, and I appreciate that the books can have so many interesting characters that people will have different ones they gravitate to, and are the most interested in. I think that's really cool even when those interests are different than mine. On an unrelated topic: As far as the spoilers in the other thread, I understand both points of view. It's cool to be excited about something you've known of for a long time and see others taking an interest. So it's normal to want to share in that excitement. But if I was just getting into the series of books or television, it would get annoying as hell having people tell me thinks like, "Just wait for what's coming up. It will blow your mind!" That takes away from people's discovery, could make it hard for the event to live up to the hype, and will certainly lessen the impact since the impact of the shocking things in the series are the fact that they are surprises. So if you are expecting something to disrupt what you perceive as normal or expected, the surprise is dampened even if you don't know exactly what the surprise will be. Nobody will have spoiled anything specific, but it would make things less enjoyable. I would be annoyed to have my surprise and discovery of all the twists and turns of the plot hindered by people who already know things spouting off how surprised and shocked I'm going to be.
Same here, I didn't pay much attention to Lady Stoneheart. All I want for the finale is for Tyrion to kill Tywin/Shae and escape. It's funny how the people in the show's thread are reaction to Red Viper's death, imagine when Jon gets "killed" or when Brienne is about to get hanged or when Daenery's get's taken away by her dragon lol.
Yeah, book readers know it's kinda gone nowhere so far, but the TV show viewers are gonna s**t bricks if they see mama stark is alive, and then they have 9 months to stew in that knowledge, even if it does indeed go nowhere. The TV show has shown a willingness to go off script when it comes to the smaller storylines, so they could easily spend a whole season killing Freys ( who wouldn't love that) with Brienne mixed in somewhere. Not sure what GRRM had in mind long term, but I'm sure he'll let them know. I really hope they do use her, because next season is really set up to be a dud IMO, other than Arya, none of the characters seem to have very compelling story arcs moving forward. I think the show will have to infuse some original action.
I would think most people would enjoy the Jon and Dany parts (they are unpopular characters with unpopular storylines).
All the evidence seems to suggest that they are going to try and cram both Feast and Dance into next season, maybe some of it slipping into season 6. Sansa, Littlefinger and Bran are almost out of published material, though the show certainly knows how to reframe variations of the same scene over and over again to delay things, see most of Arya this season. If they do try to fit both into one season then there is a ton of good content to choose from, and if anything it will probably feel rushed. Even if they stretch it over 2 seasons, or a season and a half, it will definitely be filmed so that the stories from Dance and Feast are happening concurrently like all the other seasons. There isn't going to be a year with no Tyrion, Dany or anyone from Dance.
They are unpopular now because they haven't been doing much this past season but Jon's and Daenery's popularity will pick up again as the show progresses.
I mean try to fit both books into one season, obviously some of it is going to be next season. The question is whether it will take more than one season to cover both books? If not then it goes from a slim chance of GRRM staying ahead of the show, to virtually no chance.
I fear the show will run out of material before GRRM is completed the next book If the show starts to drag . . . . it gets cancelled Rocket River
He still has 2 books to write, there is virtually no chance he stays ahead of the show as is. At his writing pace, A Dream of Spring wouldn't come out till 2020 or so, no way the show wouldn't pass him up by then.
Not to mention that he's hinting about an 8th book so he could drag this out till 2025 for all we know.
It depends on how many seasons the show writers are willing to do. If feast and dance took 2 seasons, Winds of Winter should be out by then. Who knows how big Winds of Winter is going to be. It might take 2 seasons to cover it like Storm of Swords did. Martin recently said that he wants the conclusion to actually be a full feature movie, so it can get the special effects it would need, though I think it would have to be a "Hobbit" like 3 films for one book to have enough time to cover a whole books worth of content. The movie would probably take a few years to film, so it would give him more time to write.
Well Dorne is meant to be featured in the next season so that will fill some stuff. I'm sure Tyrion's journey will be featured as will Jon's interaction with Stannis and the Boltons all next season. The way they're speeding up, I can see Jon being stabbed in one of the last two episodes of next season. Plus, Arya in Braavos will probably be big as well as Cersei's trial. I think there's definitely a good chance both Feast and Dance get condensed into next season with Winds making up season six and the series ending in season seven, regardless if Martin has published the last two books.
And 2020 is being generous. We'll all be sitting in the nursing home when the final book is released. And with my luck I'll have gone completely blind and will have to wait a couple more months for the books on tape
I don't think Jon will get stabbed until the 6th season. It's not until the end of Dance that he gets stabbed and I'm sure they will figure out some filler story for him like they did the raid on Craster's keep for him to do. Actually wouldn't be surprised if they wait to hold the vote for the new Lord Commander of the Nights watch till season five. Although I would really like to see it done this season. Too bad they can't do the whole thing with Mormont's bird landing on his shoulder. I don't believe they ever introduced his bird.
I don't know. What other major parts of his story would be the end of next season? I can't think of any. Also, the show's creators have stated they want to keep it around 7 seasons.
It would seem Jon getting elected commander would take quite a few segments to do it right, and the last episode is loaded as is. I actually hope they wait until next season. I'd Imagine Stannis saves the day this week,and the season ends with Stannis offering to legitimize him as Jon Stark and Lord of Winterfell. If they do decide to name him commander this season, I could see him getting stabbed to end next season, it all depends on what GRRM's long term plans for the character are, and how big a role he'll play in WOW. I honestly think GRRM is more focused on the show at this point, he has every intention of finishing his story on screen, WOW will probably be the last book to come out before the show ends.
