American POW freed in prisoner swap. And the GOP doesn't like it.....

treeman in epic meltdown mode. LOL

Comrades, a re-education camp seems to be in order. Posthaste. Gun confiscation should proceed immediately.

 

Meltdown? LOL, I just call it as I see it, and I know what you guys really are. I used to be one of you long, long ago, and I understand how you operate.

And I do love seeing you guys get in a tizzy about it.

 

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Yes, there are extremist on the left, but we keep them on the fringe where they belong. The GOP actively courts their fringe including putting them on Presidential tickets!

 

You did a great job keeping Obama on the fringe where he belongs.

 

Bergdahl, aside from being a typical, "birther" or "Benghazzi style tactic by the GOP who have nothing else but more tax breaks for the one percent -- excuse me the "job creators" lol really shows the psychic scars caused by unnecessary wars.

The Real Villains of the Bergdahl Tale
by Ray McGovern, June 04, 2014
http://original.antiwar.com/mcgovern/2014/06/03/the-real-villains-of-the-bergdahl-tale/

For me, the Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl affair brings back angry memories of how, in 2009, President Barack Obama caved in to be-medaled and be-ribboned generals like David Petraeus and ordered a modified-limited-hangout-type “surge” of 33,000 troops into Afghanistan. Consequential cowardice at work – trading lives for political advantage – as bad as it gets.

Bergdahl was quick to discern that he and his comrades were pawns of a policy doing far more harm than good in terms of helping the Afghans. Emailing from Afghanistan in late June 2009, Bergdahl pointed out the main problem in these words: “In the US army you are cut down for being honest… but if you are a conceited brown nosing ****-bag you will be allowed to do what ever you want.”

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Do Fallon’s epithets toward Petraeus apply equally to commander-in-chief Obama who ordered the “surge” into Afghanistan, which – like its first still-born twin “surge” in Iraq two years earlier – predictably did little more than get a lot of folks killed and buy some time for the architects of the two misguided adventures to get some distance between their original decisions and the ultimate failures.

Those “decent intervals” achieved by the two “surges” were purchased with the lives of about 1,000 U.S. soldiers each, not to mention the many more deaths inflicted on the Iraqi and Afghan people. But the “surges” allowed Official Washington’s still-influential neocons to maintain the fiction that – if only – the “successful surges” had been extended indefinitely, everything would have worked out fine.

 

Mad magazine chimed in on the subject :grin:



I don't blame Obama.. he probably found out Berghdal was a deserter off the news. heh

 

LOL!!!! Are you serious? I don't think any leftist has that intent. That's hilarious.

As for your claim at the end of the post that's been proven wrong time and time again, and various governments in Europe that are much further to the left than U.S. are currently proving that's not the case.

I don't know if your post was a joke or not, but if it wasn't a joke, then you are seriously delusional. I don't know where you got your dystopian fantasies about the left from.

 

Agreed! I don't give a rats *** what party did or did not do. It's the actions of an individual regardless of their political belief that cause the effects. Some just don't get it. They see the world as Rep vs Dem. Sale at Macy's...yeah Obama! Stock drops 100 pts...dang Bush! Sad really as you only get 1 life and that is how you choose to spend viewing it.

His actions already cost 5 families their sons. I personally don't know how I would be able to handle that info knowing my blatant stupidity caused 5families irreparable heartache. Don't believe in the war? Fine...make your case and tell them you can't do this...take a dishonorable discharge and go home. But why would you walk into enemy lines? If you want out, you walk away. You don't walk toward the enemy. And given some of his writings before taking his long walk, I dare say it didn't take much for him to spill all he knew about any military activity.

You don't negotiate with terrorist. That puts all Americans in danger...not just the soldiers.

You don't trade POWs until the war is over. Do you really think these 5 leaders are going back home to farming? Ah yes...I was at war against the US. Got captured and most likely tortured by the US. 13 years later, I'm just going to go home and forget the past 15+ years because I'm a much nicer person now...yeah right...They will be back for more blood.

I don't care if it was a rep or dem that made that call...it was a stupid call.

 

Qatar will "lose" them before the year is up.

 

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LOL, you guys are priceless, I couldn't pay for better entertainment!

Yes, it is kind of funny that a civilian would have to educate a vet on rule of law and innocent until proven guilty.

I'm not believing that anyone is lying. I just further believe that there will be a time and place for them to tell their truth, that would be at a trial.

It isn't "anyone who questions something the president does," it is people who question the president over stupid, petty crap like Benghazi, the IRS "scandal," or bringing an American serviceman home from captivity. There is so much to criticize the president on legitimately (privacy and drone strikes come to mind) that when you criticize things like this, it just makes you look silly.

My father is a vet and he has the same opinion that I do, is he just one of those vets that you don't consider legitimate because his opinion is different than yours?

I didn't admit to any such assumption (that there is a right wing "conspiracy"), my observation is that the people crying foul over this are the exact same people who have cried wolf over absolutely everything done by this administration, no matter how banal. It isn't a "conspiracy," it is Obama Derangement Syndrome.

Saying that Obama should have cut this guy loose in Afghanistan is the height of stupidity. Everything I have EVER heard from military folks regarding POWs is that you do everything, you move heaven and Earth, you incur any cost necessary to get them home. That is, until the president incurring the cost is Obama, at that point the only calculation is to oppose absolutely everything he does, no matter what it is.

People are kidnapped by various organizations regularly, particularly in the corporate world. There are companies that specialize in dealing with these hostage situations, they negotiate for the safe return of the hostages, generally for large sums of (insured) money. The only reason you oppose this is the result of your ODS.

 

No they won't.

 

basso get to posting those pics! bigtexxx say brah and pathetic 500 times, treeman keep freaking out, we can all hear your heart pounding. Libs keep taking their troll bait over and over and over and over and over an over! It's 9am I expect you all to be bewildering angry all day! GO GO GO

 

False equivalency, the Marine broke Mexican law, he isn't in any way a POW. The precedent here is that we bring American servicemen home after conflicts, no matter the circumstances. I think that is a good thing.

 

He had a short timetable and the ability to get an American POW home. He specifically said he would do so in his signing statement, it shouldn't come as a surprise that he followed through.

It is more desirable to bring American POWs home, no matter the cost.

 

So, we should just skip the trial and leave him in Afghanistan because some other soldiers made accusations that even the Pentagon doesn't think are accurate.

Your delusion just keeps getting more entertaining. ODS to the max!

 

nope. Deal has been available for 2 years. In fact Congress already turned this exact deal down.

That's just completely absent of any logic. What if the cost is 2 soldiers? Then is it worth bringing a POW home? What if the cost is thousands of Americans lives?

 

Wow, you have access to Senate and House Intelligence Committee information that isn't available to the rest of us (you're claiming the "exact deal", please link to it)?

If the cost is a prisoner exchange, you do it. As observed earlier, Netenyahu traded over 1000 convicted terrorists for a single soldier, with nary a peep. I would say 5 for 1 looks like a deal in comparison.