Jon Singleton up! Agrees to 8-year, $35 million deal.

That was my point, that the strategy of giving out guaranteed contracts to unproven MLB players could backfire because you have money tied up for a few years.....

 

forest - trees

when the team philosophy is building from within, if we have several busts on the major league level we are screwed regardless of their contract status.

however, I find it hard to believe that $10M guaranteed hampers a club in any future signing. Hell, Carlos Lee farted $10M.

and just to clarify, the vague generalities of your statement could be applied to anything in life. If you want to bash, find a better reason than signing one of your top prospects early guaranteed money.

 

He is guaranteed... what, $2 million/year? What about Scott Feldman?

I think it's a consensus (as evidenced by Bud Norris and others' comments) that regardless of whether Singleton flails out the Astros worked out a ridiculously advantageous deal. He would have to hit worse than Chris Carter and possibly get suspended for a couple years for this deal to have been a failure.

 

It's only 2 mill a year for the next 5 seasons. Even if they give out 6 or 7 contracts like that, and they all fail, thats 12-14 mill a season, which is the equivalent of one bad contract, and hardly crippling unless the Astros become a franchise that simply doesn't spend money.

If that's the case, we probably have much bigger problems.

 

Yeah, this deal is very good for the Astros. They could sign two or three more and be perfectly fine if the players never panned out.

 

Risk on both sides

I bet Grossman wishes he would have signed his offer

Hope it works out great for both sides, Singleton hits like a star, makes his 30 mill up to age 30 then signs a free agent deal for a couple gazillion (which will probably be the going rate at that point)

I'm just glad he is starting tonight and not Krauss/Guzman

 

IMO, we dodged a bullet here.

 

What happens if during Singleton's first at bat he gets hit? Players union making a statement?

 

Who is bashing? No reason for your rude attitude. did you miss where I said I could care less what he did or did not get?

 

I wonder how this will impact Singleton psychologically if he does well and he realizes he gave up ~$30 mil

 

I'm wondering in that scenario would Singleton attemt to file a grievance saying that the Astros kept him down purposely forcing him to sign the contract if he wanted to play in the majors. Not saying that's what happened here. The guy signed the contract and a miracle happened and he was suddenly ready for the majors could be their argument.

 

I'd say very little at all. He now has 10 million dollars no matter what happens

And in your senario, if he does well he will be in line for a huge contract, on top of the 35 million from this deal

I'm just a little lost here I guess, why are so many people upset about him accepting a deal that sets him and his family up forever?

 

His point is valid. It is a gamble. Maybe a calculated gamble, but a gamble nonetheless.

 

This whole "could've lost $30mil" is somewhat a load of BS. To lose that kind of money, Singleton would have to be AWESOME. And I mean All-Star level of production. While I like Singleton as a prospect, his potential to reach that level of production is still pretty unlikely.

But I don't believe in general players that get long term deals are more likely to start sucking than those without such contracts. Evan Longoria played pretty well these past few years, for example.

 

I don't think he has to be that good. Even an old ass Hunter Pence is getting 18.5 mil.

A younger Singleton with very good OBP and power could command more.

 

Actually the only way this is a good deal for him is if he completely sucks. Even just being above average will cost quite a bit.

 

Actually, for some people, 10 million dollars is a lot of money

But, if you want to rip him for not being greedy, keep on

 

Getting market value isn't greedy.

 

Plenty - the majority - of players don't make $35MM through their first 8 years in the league. Your comparison player, Hunter Pence - a two-time all-star during arbitration years - made $35MM in his first 7 years before signing his big free agent deal at age 30, the same time Singleton will be a free agent.

 

What is the market value of a completely unproven player that's never had an MLB at-bat? No player without experience has ever gotten this kind of money.