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Do the Ends justify The Means?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Rocket River, May 31, 2014.

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  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    In our society .. . . Do the Ends justify The Means?

    I have often told friends: The only difference between a 'Darwin Award Winner' and a "Inspirational Story" is the result.

    I often think of the movie 127 hours
    Dude was squeezing in to cracks alone in the desert
    He dies - people think of him as a Darwin Award winner for being so foolish
    He lives against those odds - he is an inspiration and testament to the human spirit

    While people may frown up on various body modifications . . . if the end results are good. Who cares?
    Does not matter how you manage to LOOK GOOD . . .just look good.
    Same thing with being rich . . . if someone does something unethical to enrich themselves. . . people may whine a little but overall . . .. we see them as a success worthy of praise for their ingenuity.

    Do we judge an act/action . . . . based on the results?
    Are we an 'End Justifies the Means' nation?

    Rocket River
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Member

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    Probably yes but it's not a good thing.
     
  3. justtxyank

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    You're example is a really weird choice to use for ends justifying the means. I don't get it.
     
  4. TheresTheDagger

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    Well, the ends (being alive and celebrated as a hero rather than dead) totally seem to justify the means (cutting his arm off).

    But I agree, not exactly the choice I would have made for an example. The guy simply had no other choice to live...he did what he had to do.
     
  5. Dairy Ashford

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    Depends on the ends, depends on the means. Most practical people continually weigh those two things against each other.
     
  6. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Ends do not justify the means, but the means amount to nothing if you don't get the end result you want.

    I personally like seeing winners that don't cheat. I prefer Lemond to Armstrong. I prefer Magic to CP3. I prefer Carl Lewis to Ben Johnson. I prefer Buffet to Icahn.
     
  7. Buck Turgidson

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    Proper punctuation is a means to an end.
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    But is it justified?
     
  9. Buck Turgidson

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    ...or is it just an end to the means?
     
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    What is the mean of the ends?
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    For the Greeks, it did not.

    That's why even after all these centuries they are still Giants.
     
  12. Buck Turgidson

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    they might be
     
  13. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    The best ends are ones with unjustified means. Like being racist then making 2 billion off it.
     
  14. Rocket River

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    No Doubt . . .. in the big picture
    he is rich . . . many people still definding him
    So . . . he got rich by stepping on people. . .well that doesn't matter

    As for the 127
    My point in that is. . . . Maybe we are a little too RESULTS-ORIENTED

    Meaning .. . different results means the guy is seen as a fool.

    Rocket River
     
  15. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Left justified.
     
  16. HR Dept

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    OP, bro... You gotta do better. lol
     
  17. heypartner

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    here's a better quandary for justifying the means.

    Would you break Wingman etiquette and ****-block your friend to steal the girl away that he's hitting on at a bar...if she is super hot.
     
  18. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Nah you play fullback and take out the ugly friend. Ultimately the various holes feel the same. Give or take.
     
  19. Kim

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    RR, you should take like a college philosophy class or something. There's a lot of reading/writing/debate on this subject out there.
     
  20. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    The end ZONE justifies the NaTRONE Means.

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/s8RfdTJwS-g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    This was the only year (1994 NFL regular season) I ever played fantasy football and he was my featured RB. So every time I hear the question in the OP, this is my answer.
     

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