Dude kills 7 - leaves retribution video on Youtube

Thank you. Exactly.

 

If alcohol causes suicidal thoughts, would you stop drinking? Doubt it.

Dang. Sorry again for multiple posts. It's just I have alot of mental illness in my family and have lost and I feel very strongly that these medications are a necessity to avoid the worst.

 

Er, yes I would. Seriously?

Yeah, me too. And I often feel medications make things worse. Our society is overmedicated.

 

It's interesting that almost all these cases end up with the shooter killing himself.

 

Okay, that was a bit much. Obviously I don't know you and can't judge you. I beg to differ, but I guess we agree to disagree, respectfully. All I'm saying is that the banning of antidepressants is never going to happen, and rightfully so.

HOWEVER,

I would say medication should be a last resort, and all other forms of therapy/consideration should be exhausted thoroughly, unless the patient is an immediate threat.

 

Fair enough. I feel there is definitely a place for medication. But we should be vigilant about side effects and not let the profit motive override that.

 

you miss the point...his drive was to inflict pain on others as a punishment for being "rejected by humanity." The guy was homicidal, and chose the cowardly way to not face the consequences of his actions by then committing suicide. There are some drugs with the very rare side effect of increasing suicidal thoughts/ideations, but this is not such a case. This kid had issues that medications were not addressing.

 

Were the medications making it worse? That's what I'm asking.

 

Bullying? No I am not talking about that.

What I mean is that there are very few rights of passage, there is seldom an opportunity for young men to test his boundaries and fail... and learn how to handle it.

Rogers believed that he was better than everyone, he never was never able to actually press that sentiment through experience. In the past, growing up young men would fight, they would get experiences and get a better idea of who they are and what they are made of. It isn't a judgment either, being the biggest and strongest isn't the end all, be all........ just learning how to be a man is very important... that isn't taught often... for a variety of problems.

When you take a mental disorder, and combine that with a strong sense of entitlement... you have a recipe for disaster.

 

I completely understand what you are getting at but I don't believe that guys like this would do better by learning to be an "alpha" male. Kids like this don't react normally to peer pressure and normal social situations. This kid was an egomaniac and a psychopath, he would have snapped earlier. He needed therapy not locker room hazing.

 

Who knows if the drugs he was on increased his aggressive behaviors; I am not his psychiatrist who was able to evaluate him on and off the medications he was prescribed...In the end a doctor is only gonna know as much information as you choose to divulge...

What I do know is that this kid fostered years of hatred and resentment against females. He also has a deep misconception about what it means to have a fulfilled life. And his desire was to reflect the emotional pain he experienced into a physical demonstration of violence...

 

I'm currently skimming through this guy's 140-page memoir and holy **** this guy is completely insane. He's a entitled a little prick that's obsessed with blonde girls and is fueled by not getting any attention from them even though he does absolutely nothing to warrant people to talk to him. He just expects girls to come to him so he can get laid and thinks that getting laid will solve all his problems.

This dude is nuts.

 

Glorify a culture that is shoved down their throats 24/7
They don't own nary a radio station/tv stations/etc
But . . . it is what is CHOSEN to be presented to them

Which is why I do not absolve society of its part in things like this

The culture . . . AMERICAN CULTURE shapes perceptions and expectations

Rocket River

 

How do you think these psychiatric sessions go?

They typically are only 15 minutes long after the initial visit.

 

The role of the psychiatrist is to work with a therapist (psychotherapist) and patient to work out the appropriate treatment method (the medication.) The psychiatrist is a medical doctor whose primary role is the adjusting and switching of the medication of a patient, in addition to determining when and if an intervention is needed.

The therapist is the professional who addresses the issues at hand, and these appointments last at least an hour. Appointments could be scheduled two or three times a week, or more if necessary. Hell, even every other day. Every person is different. It can make a world of a difference. The therapists act as the type a patient confides in to help them address their emotional issues.

The psychiatrist treats the illness, the therapist addresses the roots of the illness and the symptoms of the illness so to speak.

 

Might I suggest if you wish to have a real discussion about mental health and the medications that are commonly used to treat it, you start a thread in D&D.

That really is a serious subject that would be better served there....and it would allow this thread to stick with the tragedy it was originally started about.

 

In less than 5 pages you'd get a claim of racism, a mention of Hitler and/or eugenics, and an argument about pilgrims and Indians.

 

Gotcha.

 

further proof that being rich, having a sense of entitlement, and a bmw doesn't get you laid.

it's perception and elements of society that tells pieces of crap like this that being rich matters or has anything to do with anything. People pretend that it matters and jerk off like this guy actually believe it.

 

I don't think he comes from money. In his notes he talks about borrowing money from his mom for rent, laptops, etc. He also mentions he wishes his mom married a wealthy man, and that his dad was more successful in his career.