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[Woj] Houston plans to pursue Kevin Love

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Swishh, May 18, 2014.

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  1. basketballholic

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    Someone here is finally admitting it is a terrible contact. Finally.
     
  2. RocketFan

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    As much as I would like for Garcia to play SF, he is opting out with the Rockets this summer, I believe. :(
     
  3. DaneB

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    I like what you said about having Dwight lock up the defensive bigs. The league, other than Memphis, will tend to have only one big man that you need to worry about offensively. Love brings some incredible dynamics to this team. He can spread the floor and allow Dwight to go to town, then he can crash the boards with the best of them. His man to man defense is not the best, but he will do enough on the defensive boards to make up for it. He also is a player you want because he is tough, will dive on the floor and do the dirty work. He can also be a player that draws doubles and look to pass. He would definitely take some pressure off the big 3 and fill a vital role on this team. He will be the "David West" player people say we need, only better.

     
  4. ROXTXIA

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    #25

    Lin ($15,000,000 backup, worth only "yay! Harvard nerds!" to Boston's turnstiles)

    Asik (whom they should want, but $15,000,000 nevertheless)

    Tjones (talented but meatheaded backup 4, and redundant, given Sullinger)

    for

    Rajon Rondo? (I'm assuming Boston would absorb one of Lin or Asik into their TE)


    Uuuuuhhhh....we wish.

    I think that package, WITH another first, could net you Melo. Maybe. But some of these other players will require Parsons in the equation, no matter how often you want to post "We.......Will.....Not......Trade.....Parsons."
     
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    We


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    If the incoming player's name is, say, Kevin Love (and I think it's a long shot), then...

    we

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    Parsons.

    Otherwise we'd have no shot at all (and it'd have to be a three-team trade anyway).

    But I'll believe Morey in his statements that he wants to keep Parsons. Can't keep turning over the roster and expect any sort of chemistry.
     
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    We


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  8. Play07

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    I don't understand why people think we want trade him parsons when we haven't made it out 1st round.

    Who was the last Houston beloved rocket player that played big & helped rockets win two championships on a rookie scale contract, but was still traded in a package for a so called "superstar" ?
     
  9. Swishh

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    You

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    Parsons is very trade-able, and cyberx already mentioned that Morey will test the market to see Parson's value.
     
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    Because I respect you I will offer a response here.

    Yes, we understand Sam Cassell was traded while he was on a rookie deal for an alleged "superstar". Different time, different place. That was a championship team who was starting to fade, had lost to the Jazz in the WC Finals and were looking to make another run with 3 superstars who were at that time looked like a ground breaking landmark team.

    Today, it's different. There's already a 3-headed superstar monster with a fourth first-ballot hall-of-famer (RayRay) on the team. And last season they had to go to the brink to beat back another aged team with 3 superstar sure-fire hall-of-famers.

    Now....consider Parsons' contract and the actual logistics of trading him. How are we going to trade him for Love? We going to exercise the option on his contract and trade him with 1 year left to Minnesota where he can walk away from them (and likely would) after one miserable season up there? Now why would Minnesota do that?

    Oh no....we're going to let Parsons go through restricted free agency and execute a sign-and-trade with him agreeing to a long-term deal to go to Minnesota?????? Good luck with that.


    No.....we're going to let him to go through restricted free agency, and match his offer sheet and then trade him ............ later......like a year from now...since we can't trade him before that without his approval. And then we lose the flexibility of 2015 free agency because we've got Parsons contract on the books and we haven't acquired Love or whomever our 3rd superstar is, and then Love goes down with a knee or he decides he wants to go to LA in a year? And then we're stuck with no cap space and forced to have to trade Parsons to get a 3rd superstar when we could have simply let Parsons play out his minimum salary deal, signed a free agent in 2015 with cap space and then re-upped Parsons to a 5-year deal that overpays him in the early years with a bonus and winds up with a reasonable overall salary with the later years being more easily swallowed and tradable at that time.

    We're not trading Parsons. Parsons' contract is our ace in the hole giving us ultimate cap flexibility into the 2015 off season if we can't get the right guy now. And we're not trading Parsons for that guy. Because Parsons needs to be our 4th guy....like RayRay.....for us to really have a chance to win a championship. If we trade him in the process of getting our 3rd superstar then we're stuck trying to attract our 4th guy when he was already here.

    It's simply not going to happen. If we can't get Love or Bosh or Melo or possibly Lebron (or possibly some other superstar like Rondo or somebody else unnamed as of yet) by trading for them and keeping Parsons this off season then we are gong to play out this year, we'll trade Asik for a pick or two and possibly some other player on an expiring deal, we may deal Lin down at the deadline for a pick or another expiring contract....and we'll go to 2015 making a major push for Aldridge and whomever else is free and can walk here in 2015....while at the same time retaining Parsons.
     
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    I get what your saying but at the same time I think you always trade the 4th best player for the 3rd best player. Especially if the 3rd guy is a love or melo who are top 10 players in the league. Having a combo of h&h with love or melo easily makes us favorites out west. Three top 10 players on the same team is something you can't pass up on just so you can keep parsons IMO.
     
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    Lin Jones 1st 1st Asik cash for Love
     
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    In most cases you are probably right, you deal the 4th best player for the 3rd best player. But not in this case. Because Parsons is on a minimum deal and gives us the opportunity to get to the 2015 free agent pool and still retain him. And Parsons honestly has become very underrated here. Because he has had to take on the role as the 3rd offensive player his defense has suffered. Put him back in his appropriate role as the 4th guy....he'll explode defensively and offensively.
     
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    Basketballholic- solid reply, I was speaking in essence if cassell "on a rookie contract" could get traded in a package for Barkley, after being basically Houston's hero behind dream, it's not unrealistic for it to happen with parsons because his body of work especially in the playoffs doesn't compare to what cassell did here.

    I agree the team was headed in a different sir Erika was on decline, we are improving now, but cassell deserved and fans wanted him to stay more than parsons and get paid, but due to BUSINESS it didn't happen.

    My thing is I feel like parsons is not untouchable and the cassell situation is a good example why. But you could be right he could stay, but I see MOREY moving him it he was needed in a make or break deal for a 3rd star.
     
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    Morey will test the market to see what Dwight and Harden's trade value is too. Don't kid yourself. That's part of being a great GM. You gotta keep trade talks for your superstars somewhat active on a continuous basis so if indeed you see down the road you are going to have to move him you have a leg-up on trade talks.

    But make no mistake about it. testing the market for trade value is NOT the same thing as trading a guy.

    we are not trading Parsons. And yes, I do have inside sources. And this is as of right now.

    Now.....at any point in the future Parsons' relationship with the Rockets and Morey....Parsons could take a turn and express his desire to get out. If that happens then he would move into the tradable player pile. That could happen tomorrow but it's not likely.

    As of right now......we're not trading Parsons for a 3rd superstar. We're going to try to acquire a superstar without trading Parsons and then if it requires trading Parsons to get that third superstar that won't happen unless Parsons himself expressing a desire to get out of here (not likely).
     
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    I agree with you, i think if you can get 3 top 10 players.... and stray away from the tax than you do that..... i dont think Parsons is worth the money his camp will be asking for, and he is out most attractive piece in any trade that will occur for a 3rd star.
     
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    I too have inside sources.... We will be trading Parsons for any 3rd star we can get. Including Anthony "Pig" Miller.
     
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    Trading Parsons to Minnesota with 1-year left on his deal does NOT represent trade value to Minnesota. They're not going to be able to trade him for anything of value and he most likely walks at the end of next season.

    The only way this changes is if Parsons for some wacko reason decides he wants to go to Minnesota and is willing to sign a long-term deal there. If that be the case then we can execute a sign-and-trade for Love if Minnesota decides to deal Love and deal him here.

    Now you tell me.....

    1. Is Parsons going to have any desire to go to Minnesota and sign a long-term deal there?

    2. Is Minnesota going to be willing to "overpay" Parsons to play there when they and everybody else knows he's essentially at best a 3rd or 4th guy on a championship contending team?

    3. Is Parsons going to be willing to sign a deal for under market value to get his long-term money?

    4. Is Parsons going to be willing to walk away from a championship team to a lottery team when he is one-year away from getting a major payday and he could even get his payday this year if we can get a trade done before June 30th?


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    The answer to all those questions is NO.




    ***There is a slim possibility of a sign-and-trade involving Parsons. And that involves Orlando (his home) and to a lesser degree possibly Miami (close to home and championship team). But that most likely never happens unless Parsons goes to Morey and tells Morey he wants to go to home to Orlando. And then Morey has to try to extract value from Orlando for Parsons.
     
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