Is it sexism if someone crosses the street to avoid a group of young men and walk past a group of young women? Men commit almost 400% more violent crime than women and it would be easier to escape a female attacker unharmed. I don't think that is bigotry towards men, just a risk/reward problem. What if they walk past the group of guys and pray they allow them to use a Street Sweeper
Why avoid either a group of men or women? Why not just continue on the side of the street you are on? I don't live my life is if I'm going to be attacked by every one or group of people I see.
What I wrote: I wasn't making a blanket statement on what is appropriate in all parts of the country or towards all people of a given race. In some places and at certain times of the day, a certain level of caution and discrimination based on statistically significant factors (race potentially being one of them) to help avert risk may be totally appropriate. I think you must have completely misunderstood my argument, if you actually think I'm assuming a majority of black people are criminals.
Your argument has shifted from 50% to don't avoid risk full stop which is closer to my position. That's fine because I wouldn't cross the street either. Some people do and some people also avoid the freeways. I don't think of them as racists or crazy, just as someone who isn't willing to accept as much risk as I am for convenience and normalcy.
Good for you. Would you advise an elderly person, or a woman who has less means to protect herself, or someone with a child, the same? Its wrong for them to be extra cautious?
To me it isn't about that someone can or can not defend themselves, it's that there isn't that much risk in the first place. Now if there is abnormally high percentage of elderly or families with children being attacked that would change. It's just that most people, on most days they go out, aren't attacked and come across many different groups of people. I don't think most people need to worry about which group is going to attack them. All of that can change depending on where someone lives, behaviors they've seen from a group like the example of the poster who said he saw a group of teens blocking the sidewalk and not moving out of the way, and behaving in a way that would make it logical that there could be some risk.
So your argument, ultimately, rests on the extent of risk one would face -- I agree with you up to this point. You contend that the risk just isn't all that much. Since risk is the key factor here, the very relevant question here is how much risk is enough to be a real concern. Earlier, you suggested it was 50%. But surely that's much too high. I think I would be extra cautious if I faced a mere 10% risk, all the more so if I had something valuable with me (say, my laptop). And if it was someone even more vulnerable, say a young lady who faces additionally a higher risk of sexual assault, then surely the point at which risk is no longer acceptable would be still lower.
Yes, the more I think over this, the closer I come to agreeing with you. But again placing an accurate figure on the risk is very difficult. It was under 50% (say 33% like you mentioned originally) and you were only going to encounter that situation one time, I would still say that it was alright. If it was multiple times everyday that the situation would present itself, that's a lot of chances to come up that it would happen. So I would advise more caution. But, again, if it was say that 33% of people of a race would attack someone, you would still need to factor in so many things, is that over their lifetime? Could they maybe do it when they were younger and then have learned not to do it? Was it when they were in need of money for an addiction, and maybe they aren't addicted anymore? etc. Just too many factors to figure into the equation.
I'm not surprised by what Cuban said and I respect his honesty for actually saying it. Millions of ppl feel the same way but won't dare say it out loud and in public.
Yes, because you are a coward and a race-baiter. I approve 100% of what Cuban said, #1 because he was right and #2 because he had the courage to say it. I went down a bit when he apologized to Trayvon Martin's family - that was completely unnecessary - but I get he was feeling pressure. The race-hustlers are persistent and loud, otherwise they wouldn't make any money. People such as yourself - those wh see racial motives in every utterance - have made it nearly impossible to address the race issues we face in an honest manner because you DEMAND a certain line of thought and will not tolerate any variation. You are very loud when someone deviates from the path, and it makes it difficult to get honest perspecive either way. amaru, TBH, you are a red line to me on this site. Every once in a while I click on thes red lines, and every once in a while I respond to them. You were put on my ignore list because you are a race-baiter. You think everything has racial connotations. In another world I'd be able to convince you that you're wrong, that most people don't give a shIIt about race, that it's mostly in your head, and that you're making things even worse by focusing so narrowly on it and ignoring what your "opposition" tells you. But of course, we don't live in this world, and you simply think of me as another cracker who is in denial about his own white privelage, and is more racist than he knows. Se la vis...
The issue is risk . . . .and perceived risk Those are not the same thing The problem is skin color .. . .colors the perception of risk Reminds me of the Kumar and Harold movie where Kumar is dress like a normal dude on the plane but The woman sees him in full desert islamic dress with a bomb under his clothes nothing he can do about her perceptions the problem becomes. . .HER PERCEPTIONS become HIS PROBLEMS Because of these perception issues. . .let's call them SOMETHING-ISM you want that group to go above and beyond to sooth and disarm someone else's erroneous perceptions. Be extra nice don't wear hoodies Bow and scrape and kiss ass if you have to do what ever you have to . . .to make sure THEY FEEL SAFE AROUND YOU even though you have not done a d*mn thing to them This also means You must accept that these erroneous perceptions will cost you jobs, opportunities,etc but don't talk about it. . just 'WORK HARDER' to try and prove that their erroneous perception is erroneous . . . aka Just accept your Second Class Citizenship and hope that in time . . you may get real citizenship . . . at some point . . but not now . .. or tomorrow. . maybe not next year. . but maybe. . .at some point . . .. really .. . be patient .. . . . Rocket River
Saw this posted on facebook: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ide-problem--CONGRESSWOMAN-latest-victim.html Looks like the majority of victims are unsuspecting elderly or defenseless women. This makes me so mad.
Ugh.. another woman <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/YQe8TYyvRrw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> This one the victim fought back <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/aeokHTtWWx4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Good to see him get his ass beat <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/CZ5eOLko_tc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Guys in hoodies. Not sure if white or black. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/ywtjq6dz8tg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Didn't end well for attackers either.
There's apparently an entire youtube channel dedicated to "Exposing the Knockout Game" https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAZnEu3fN9Z7v7sWHx0t3gg
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Why am I no longer on your ignore list? You don't know me and trust me when I tell you that I do not think about you in any way, shape or form. Honestly, I wasn't even aware of your existence until this post.
