1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Floor & Peak for the Top Three Prospects.

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by RightToCensor, May 24, 2014.

  1. RightToCensor

    RightToCensor Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2014
    Messages:
    181
    Likes Received:
    7
    1. Andrew Wiggins

    Floor- Gerald Green/Danny Green Hybrid


    Andrew Wiggins is coming into the NBA making his money off his elite athleticism and ready defense that can only get better with added muscle. Wiggins has that quick leap that we see in Gerald Green whenever he rebounds or dunks the ball. He can defend both guard positions (and SFs on the perimeters) with the foot-speed and physical build that Danny Green has. His 3PT shooting is desisive and hard to judge with the lack of attempts he takes from downtown compared to his midrange and his game in the paint. He thrives in transition much like Gerald Green although I'd like to see Wiggins finish the ball better than he did at Kansas.

    Peak- Tracy McGrady

    This may be a hard thing to swallow, but Wiggins today isn't far from a healthy McGrady in terms of on-the-court skill. Wiggins ball handling isn't on par with T-MAC and he lacks the true alpha dog mentality that superstars in today's NBA have. If drastically improves both those aspects of his game he can reach his true potential.

    2. Joel Embiid

    Floor- Emeka Okafor w/ a Hakeem flashes


    From a physical standpoint, Okafor is the perfect comparison to Embiid. They are both bigs who have great size, can alter shots, can rebound, and are athletic enough to run the floor. The thing that Embiid has over Emeka is the timely flashes he has over his mentor Hakeem "The Dream". The only thing that has been keeping him from being the consensus #1 pick is his back, but after that workout video he did recently he looks mobile enough to throw that injury scare out the window.

    Peak- Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon

    Obvious.

    3. Jabari Parker

    Floor- Tobias Harris/ Jeff Green


    Jabari will make his bread and butter on his offensive skills, primarily his scoring. He WILL NOT be looked upon as someone you could have guard your opponent's first or second. Parker has the body of Tobias Harris where he could slide at the PF position and defend them in the post. He has a decent post game and the ability to finish around the rim like Jeff Green. Jabari Parker also has that decisive athleticism both Green and Harris has even though he is constantly overshadowed by Andrew Wiggins' highlights.

    Peak- Paul Pierce

    He doesn't have the size Carmelo has and isn't the pure scorer he was coming out of college so I don't see him becoming the post player Melo currently is. If Parker can improve his shooting and ability to create his own shot I can see him having a similar game as the former Finals MVP.
     
  2. ironariza

    ironariza Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2010
    Messages:
    309
    Likes Received:
    7
    how about Kristaps Porzingis and thanasis?
     
  3. RightToCensor

    RightToCensor Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2014
    Messages:
    181
    Likes Received:
    7
    Porzingis' floor is hard to predict seeing Euro bigs have stuggled translating into the NBA. His peak could be an athletic Pau Gasol.

    Thanais's floor is a shorter, more NBA ready version of his brother. His peak will probably be a 3 and D role player.
     
  4. ironariza

    ironariza Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2010
    Messages:
    309
    Likes Received:
    7
    @25, can Rockets get Kristaps Porzingis?
     
  5. RightToCensor

    RightToCensor Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2014
    Messages:
    181
    Likes Received:
    7
    Yeah, but I wouldn't recommend. I'd much prefer we rather draft Napier or Payne. They both have proven NBA Talent and can bang with NBA players.
     
  6. ironariza

    ironariza Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2010
    Messages:
    309
    Likes Received:
    7
    then nbdl most of the season? maybe napier not
     
  7. Alvin Choo

    Alvin Choo Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2007
    Messages:
    3,466
    Likes Received:
    152
  8. Voice of Aus

    Voice of Aus Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    5,157
    Likes Received:
    410
    so dante is Mr.Invisible man i see. not surprising

    i was watching a sports show on espn last week and they said they had concerns dante wont be ready because he hasnt played any basketball in the past 12 months.....

    FWIW i have dante 3rd in my big board embiid 5

    Dante

    Floor: Vasquez with more athleticism
    Ceiling: combo of rose and westbrock
     
    #8 Voice of Aus, May 25, 2014
    Last edited: May 25, 2014
  9. RightToCensor

    RightToCensor Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2014
    Messages:
    181
    Likes Received:
    7
    Completely agree. I used to have Exum at 3 and Embiid at 4, but when that workout video came out I started to feel more confident in Joel's health.
     
  10. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2000
    Messages:
    25,260
    Likes Received:
    12,960
    While I appreciate the detail... What your saying is:

    Floor - some average NBAer at their position
    Peak - HOFer at their position

    Not that insightful
     
  11. RightToCensor

    RightToCensor Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2014
    Messages:
    181
    Likes Received:
    7
    Nobody in this draft is coming in a HOF'er so it's appropiate the way I ranked everyone. I simply found the closest NBA Comparisons interms of a physical stand point and skillwise to give people an idea of how each player plays, even though it's not 100% accurate it's still good comparisons.

    Peak is thr best scouts expect every player from based soley on thier skillset coming into the NBA.
     
  12. Noob Cake

    Noob Cake Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2008
    Messages:
    3,541
    Likes Received:
    699
    Stop picking TMac has Wiggins' ceiling.

    Wiggins lacks the IQ and vision to be TMac. Even if he improves his handles, shooting, he won't have TMac's IQ and vision. His ceiling is Dr. J.
     
  13. RightToCensor

    RightToCensor Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2014
    Messages:
    181
    Likes Received:
    7
    Brah get me back on ISH. I miss the illogical threads and gimmick posters.

    Start the FREE RTC movement!
     
  14. Jmcballer88

    Jmcballer88 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2010
    Messages:
    6,954
    Likes Received:
    412
    dante exum
    peak penny hardaway
    floor shaun livingston

    you cant really compare an extremely tall point guard to shorter guards because they see the floor differently. Watching exum and hardaway highlights is almost watching the same player.
     
    #14 Jmcballer88, May 25, 2014
    Last edited: May 25, 2014
  15. Texanswin2013

    Texanswin2013 Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2013
    Messages:
    359
    Likes Received:
    13
    You took Jeff over the edge. I think he legit hates you. If that screenshot was true.
     
  16. RightToCensor

    RightToCensor Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2014
    Messages:
    181
    Likes Received:
    7
    What screenshot? Link me to it
     
  17. Voice of Aus

    Voice of Aus Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    5,157
    Likes Received:
    410
    ill quote you
    you cant really compare an extremely tall point guard, to a point guard who has had their career taken by injuries. that mkaes 0 sense

    thats like saying embiid will either be hakeem or greg oden because both are tall
     
  18. SuperBeeKay

    SuperBeeKay Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2008
    Messages:
    6,185
    Likes Received:
    258
    what are the odds that every single comparison you have made is exactly the same from grantland lol
     
  19. ironariza

    ironariza Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2010
    Messages:
    309
    Likes Received:
    7
    kid is from grantland
     
  20. Jmcballer88

    Jmcballer88 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2010
    Messages:
    6,954
    Likes Received:
    412
    You really bring no point to the argument. Im basing this on similar skill sets. Anfrenee Hardaway was best at taking it to the rim as a 6'7 point guard it gives a player a different look. Greg oden and hakeem have completly different games???
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now