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[Cinema] GODZILLA

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  1. what

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    Nicholas Cage sucks, but Godzilla; now that's quality cinema right there.

    I feel bad for young people today whose only choices in movies is 8 comic book reboots every week.

    They'll never get to experience a Jaws or Breakfast Club or E.T. or a thousand other great ORIGINAL films.

    The golden age of film is definitely dead. Don't give me this darren aronofsky bull****. Hell I could name twenty 80s directors that were better than him.

    Sucks to be young people.
     
  2. sealclubber1016

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    Oh please STFU, The Breakfast Club LOL, what a cinematic masterpiece

    Pan's Labyrinth, Inception, No Country for Old men, Tarantino Movies, Scorsese Movies, just off the top of my head.

    It must suck to get old, nothing is as good as it was.
     
  3. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    You gonna bandwagon jump to the old Crowd?

    I'm in my 30's and there are great film coming out now. Hell, Judd Apatow puts Hughes to shame IMHO.
     
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    That's kind of how I feel, too. Saw it last night.

    The only time I felt for a character was watching Cranston say goodbye to his wife behind the blast door. Other than that, every human interaction was very pointless. Kickass and the Olsen girl were only there to have some type of human journey, but they were very expendable and did not add much to the film. The best dialogue in the 2nd half came from news headlines, and that's poor scripting. Watanabe's character was very flat, too.

    Godzilla and the MUTOs were great. I liked their scenes. It was kind of hard to believe the female could go unnoticed from Las Vegas to San Francisco so easily, considering she could only walk. I also had a hard time believing there was so much shroud cover that these 150' monsters can disappear into.

    The best part of the movie was the cinematography. There were some great visuals and camera angles. I think that really hyped up the movie for me in the trailers because that was the focus in the trailers, not the dialogue or story for which there was none.

    I wanted to like the movie, but with trying to focus so much on the human characters and it falling flat in the second half, it was quite disappointing. This Godzilla remake is average to me, maybe a 6/10.
     
  5. what

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    You can't be serious?

    Planes, Trains and Automobiles
    Home Alone
    Ferris Bueller's Day Off
    The Breakfast Club
    Some Kind of Wonderful
    Christmas Vacation

    That's just to name a few.

    What do yall get?
    X-Men: Days of Future Past
    Godzilla
    Spiderman 2.

    LOL, this era of movies plane sucks.
     
  6. hooroo

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    John Hughes movies are quite dated now and sometimes cringeworthy but have individual charm.

    First couple of Apatow films were like let's see where he's going... To OK, I get it now. He's just making Meg Ryan rom-coms for the millennials.
     
  7. what

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    yeah, they don't have no cgi in them and they don't remind you of playing black-ops 7 on the x-box.

    [he nods privately in agreement]

    Your film knowledge is breathless
     
  8. Hmm

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    Personally, I can't stand Apatow comedies... Hughes films may be dated, but they had a sincere care about their subject... mainly teenage life... Even outside of those movies, there was always a palpable genuine warmth to the humor...

    Apatow isn't as genre-centric.... and leans more towards cynicism and crudely outrageous humor... Crude humor with a cynical edge is fine, if done cleverly... but, I don't see that in his comedies... It's just crude, outrageous or cynical humor without much thought put to it...

    You can see why people would actually gravitate towards his movies.... Same reason why so many prefer Michael Bay's approach to Transformers, than the new Godzilla movie...

    There really is no reason, however, to compare the two simply because they both did comedy... It's like comparing John Milius to Michael Bay... George A. Romero to Rob Zombie... Different approach to the same broad genre...
     
  9. B-Bob

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    I'm a let you finish be trolled by what, but I saw Godzilla last night, and Beyonce was the best Godzilla of all time, all time!

    Seriously, two middle-aged friends of mine and I put on our Godzilla T-shirts, downed Manhattans and took in the late show. It was just what the B-Bob ordered. Extra happy that this thread recommended the top-notch Dolby (that was so worth it), steered me away from 3D (thank you), and correctly relayed that the trailer was pretty spoiler proof (such a pleasant surprise compared to other big movies). The added bonus was walking out of the movie complex in downtown San Francisco, recognizing buildings, and having this uneasy tendency to scan the skies for enormous monsters. Ha!

    My favorite things
    1. The slow build.
    2. Cranston expiring way before you expect
    3. The balls to cast Juliet Binoche and basically kill her immediately. LOLWUT? It let you know the movie was not about people, in the end.
    4. The idea that the Pacific atoll nuclear tests were actually attempts to kill Godzilla.
    5. The idea that these beasts came from a more "radioactive" era and seek out nuclear plants/ weapons. Awesome. Seeing the bad monster munch on warheads was pretty fun. It was like f*** you humans and your supposed badass weapons.
    6. The male/female/scary mess of eggs thing for the big cockroaches. These were awesome bad guys. Loved how they walked on their curled wrists, and it was really pretty visceral when they were impaling Godzilla with those pointy limbs. Also, I thought the EMT blast ability was pretty cool, serving both the monster's lore but also the plot, in terms of nobody being able to get near them.
    7. That a human act helps Godzilla in his match against multiple opponents (as per the old movies).
    8. All the views of monsters from within cars, houses, goggles, whatever. I know it lowered the demands on CGI, but it added a realistic tinge and built more awe, I thought. Overall, they made these things really, really seem incredibly large and real. Even the fatter Godzilla with bad posture worked, I thought. He's basically some kind of stegosaurus hybrid thing that started standing on its hind legs.
    9. The halo jump to find the warhead was fantastic, as others have said. Just a beautiful few minutes of cinema to watch on the big screen, and a rare "new" idea for the genre.
    10. OMG at the finishing move, the kill shot, just... perfect, fast, and so surprising but ultimately awesome. Godzilla holding the dead roach's head like Bane holding the mask was a perfect bonus too.

    Not so good
    1. While the plot and pacing were about right for a monster film (seriously), pretty much all the dialogue was horrible, even for monster standards. They even repeated scenes, as if they forgot to edit things, like between the father and the son. "It's time to move on." "Didn't we have this conversation yesterday." "Yes, but let's move on."
    2. The main actor was a zombie throughout the entire movie. Overall, the incredible parts of the cast were just kind of not used. David S as an admiral, Ken W as the awe-struck scientist, were great but really had tiny parts.
    3. WTF with just inserting a series of random little kids at random moments? I get it's supposed to make us care about the humans, but they may as well have used kittens and puppies. I guess there was a dog escaping the Godzilla onshore wave anyway.
    4. Yes, finally, Godzilla could have been a *little* less fat maybe. Maybe. He was nearly perfect.
     
  10. Air Langhi

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    I know its a godzilla movie, but the humans keep trying to blow up godzilla and he helps the humans? I think the MUTO's motivation makes more sense.
     
  11. sammy

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    The movie was pretty slow moving and a little confusing at times but I was pretty tired after a long week. Good to great last 15-20 mins.
     
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    Yeah, agree the MUTO's motivation makes more sense, but Godzilla, in movies #2 through #N, has always had this kind of mysterious relation to humanity.

    In this movie, I kind of like Watanabe's line that Godzilla is only about "restoring balance." So it's not like he cares so much about humans (or their pathetic earlier attempts to destroy him) but more like he doesn't want giant cockroaches to take over the planet.
     
  13. Yonkers

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    Saw this yesterday on IMAX at Edwards. Loved it. Human story was weakest but didn't bother me as much as it did others. I didn't have any issues with the slow burn. Maybe because I already knew about it going in or maybe because the original was the same way.
    My 10-year old son really loved it too.
     
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    Finally got around to seeing it and I enjoyed it, but like Pacific Rim, it fell short of being the grand blockbuster it was trying to be. In the end both films had trouble with character development. Cranston's son was completely emotionless and Watanabe was dissapointingly one note. Olsen was good but her character didn't bring much in the first place. The build was a bit too slow also. But man it was a pretty film to watch.
     
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    I felt like the justification for leaving Godzilla alone was unrealistic and r****ded. NATURE WILL RESTORE BALANCE. Some yin yang alpha predator bull****. For a scientist that's pretty ridiculous logic. I mean it all works out in the end and its partially true. Godzilla does kill these MUTOs for a similar reason. However, the way he reached this conclusion was unrealistic. Also transporting a nuclear warhead using a train? WTF? They couldn't airlift the warhead to prevent getting attacked? Like 20 something soldiers are enough to guard the train against those behemoths? LOL. What is even more ridiculous is that they choose to airlift it AFTER it got demolished in an attack and got carried down river. (Also I understand one of the MUTOs can fly) but the one that attacked the train was the female MUTO that can't fly.

    The movie/action and cinematography were great, most of the acting roles were great or at least decent. The writing was a real let down.
     
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    Some people just can't escape the past.
    Its really pathetic because people like you plague every industry.
    NBA, cinema, television, music. Its all the same to you people.

    The good old days are gone and we are in the decline. :rolleyes:
     
  17. tinman

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    you are comparing apples to oranges, you are comparing teen comedies to summer block busters dude.

    X-Men Days of Future's past was dope

    if you want to compare block busters of different eras, you have say

    Terminator 2
    Aliens
    Robocop

    etc

    What do you do when you go to BurgerKing ? Try to order Nachos belle grande?
     
  18. tinman

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    you don't get to represent old people, only Deckard and the 99ers get to represent old people

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  19. tinman

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    one thing that was better in the old days were the soundtracks of the movie,
    how can anything touch Bobby Brown in Ghostbusters II?

    this is one of the greatest songs ever created by man

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/xLNYmVerl0c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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