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Mark Cuban on bigotry

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Air Langhi, May 22, 2014.

  1. hotballa

    hotballa Contributing Member

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    no no i agree with the stereotyping thing. but we are human, stereotypes is what we depend on when we see new people. thats just the way our brains are wired to adapt to changes and new faces. do i like it when someone says ni hao ma to me? no, in fact i get very ticked off by the asian cant speak english stereotype. but its just the way we are wired. everyone has stereotypes and prejudices, anyone who says otherwise is lying to other peple or to themselves.
     
  2. CCorn

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    I cant stand Mexicans on message boards. Too many emoticons.

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  3. GoRox2013

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    Ok. So how do ppl breakdown those stereotypes now?
     
  4. JuanValdez

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    Yes, you can. But then if you go on to tell me that it's okay and acceptable and people shouldn't be criticizing, I can tell you you're full of ****.
     
  5. sjackson0

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    Middle aged white women rape teenagers........................


    Where were they when i was in school??
     
  6. SeabrookMiglla

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    I think the assumption that "everyone is racist" is bs. An excuse to be prejudice.

    But I will say, everyone judges.

    I think that's what he meant, but it didn't come or right.
     
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  7. Sanity2disChaos

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    I agree....all this really stems from FEAR and I am not scared of shnit!! If people grew a pair (especially some men) these comments based solely on the fear of another person based on race, ethnicity ,creed and sexual orientation wouldn't exist. Ignorance and fear work hand in hand. in this equation.

    TRUE TEXAN!
     
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    who said skinhead? so there you go, you made your own assumption because a white guy with a shaved head and face tattoo is an Aryan nation member. you went ahead and stereotype a white guy when you said it was wrong. good job
     
  9. sew

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    Is this what Cuban is doing?
     
  10. blade andrews

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    You are incorrect when you say "it is wrong to stereotype regardless of what race," unless you say evolution is "wrong" too, because stereotyping is an evolutionary trait of survival. Let me break the scientific reality down to you, because it is apparent you only see things on a very superficial level.

    The brain did not get to where we are today (some of us, at least) by doing needless work. It is efficiency-driven, meaning it does whatever it can to reduce the amount of work and time it takes to make decisions. It's called minimizing the cognitive load. It is real; it is proven; it works. One way to minimize the cognitive load is by categorizing certain situations as dangerous, even without consciously thinking about it. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, OR WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG. IT JUST DOES.

    Say I see a snake on the ground hissing at me. I've never experienced a snake biting me before, and I may even like snakes, but I am told to avoid it b/c my mind automatically categorizes that as a danger. This is innate and uncontrollable, and no amount of snake-sensitivity classes will change this survivalist function of the mind.

    This is also what a stereotype is; a quick assay of certain perceived characteristics or traits reduced into a category for quick, easy mental operation. Stereotyping, by itself, is natural and necessary. It is when one starts to use that stereotype to willingly pre-judge individuals when it becomes prejudice- that's the problem.

    I apologize for the length of this letter, but I didn't have the........
     
  11. GoRox2013

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    Um, huh:confused:

    Stereotypes are stereotypes. Everybody has them, I agree. But the point is Cuban compares a black kid simply wearing a hoodie to a white male with a shaved head & tattoos everywhere. Its a dumb comparison. All a black kid has to do is put on a hoodie and your automatically scared of him? Really? The stereotypes of african americans are grossly exaggerated more than any other race of ppl. There are different ways of stereotyping ppl, and if wearing a hoodie is enough to make someone alter their path, then that's pure ignorance. Cuban is not racist. His comments just play on a unjust fear of african americans.
     
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  12. blade andrews

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    Perhaps it is unjust, but it is not "right" or "wrong" when a person experiences it. It happens internally, unintentionally, is all I'm saying. And you're really not so out of line with what I meant; just because Cuban may have this stereotype, does not make him racist. White bread, maybe.
     
  13. sjackson0

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    People just want an excuse to feel the way they feel, makes them feel better to think EVERYONE feels this way "people aren't being honest" I will never agree that it's Natural to have prejudice views. We are all born pure of that....either something happened to you negatively, it was taught to you or you've been brainwashed by today's mainstream media machine. Stereotypes are completely out of control and it's hard to sympathize with someone who wants an excuse to feel prejudice. If you feel that in your heart....so be it! Own it and be proud I guess...just don't throw everyone else under the bus to justify your views.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Wade said he doesn't believe Cuban said anything wrong, but that some will agree with him and some don't. Said he simply spoke his mind.</p>&mdash; Michael Wallace (@WallaceNBA_ESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/WallaceNBA_ESPN/statuses/469893525036077057">May 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Dwyane Wade says he has no problem with <a href="https://twitter.com/mcuban">@mcuban</a> comments. &quot;He said what he believes,&quot; Wade said.</p>&mdash; Chris Mannix (@ChrisMannixSI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI/statuses/469893511375245312">May 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Chris Bosh calls <a href="https://twitter.com/mcuban">@mcuban</a> comments &quot;an interesting perspective...he's trying to put himself out there...but there are consequences for that.&quot;</p>&mdash; Chris Mannix (@ChrisMannixSI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI/statuses/469894977322254336">May 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Chris Bosh says he wasn't offended by <a href="https://twitter.com/markcuban">@markcuban</a> comments ... Same from other players</p>&mdash; Ethan J. Skolnick (@EthanJSkolnick) <a href="https://twitter.com/EthanJSkolnick/statuses/469895024449433600">May 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  15. Commodore

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    A person attempting to hide their face in public draws rational suspicion.

    Not enough to draw conclusions with certainty, but enough to take precautionary measures.
     
  16. GoRox2013

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    I agree with the Cuban part. Being racist and having prejudices is totally 2 different things. Everybody has prejudes, some serious, some not so serious. Mark Cuban is the farthest thing from a racist. Some ppl misuse the word racist. Paul Dean is a racist, Donald Sterling is racist. Mark Cuban is simply a fair man, with flaws like everyone else. I just wish he would've worded this thing a little better. I agree Cuban is not a racist
     
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    But he wasn't saying they're both equally as threatening. He said he'd cross back over to where the black kid was. In other words, he'd feel more threatened by the skinhead.
     
  18. Jake Tower

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    It's not white or asian or hispanic kids playing the knock out game. And the victims aren't black, they are white.

    I posted it earlier, but here it is again:

    “There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

    -Jessie Jackson, 1996
     
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