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Mark Cuban on bigotry

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Air Langhi, May 22, 2014.

  1. daernoth

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    The issue is not the hoodie per se but a combination of elements that warn a person of danger. That sense can sometimes be confused with or genuinely mixed with racism.

    One time i was talking with some friends in a parking lot just after the store I had been in was closed. I saw 3 young guys(teenagers) walking in our general direction walking with a little attitude and with their hoodies up so you couldn't see their face well.

    I had a strong feeling that we should just get in my car and leave but i told myself "nah im just being paranoid, just relax, its just some young guys heading toward their house or something". Well, the moment they were close enough the lead guy pulled out a gun and they robbed us. The guy with the gun hit a couple of us with the butt of his gun without provocation. He swung at me particularly hard but thankfully I saw it coming and rolled with the hit just in time. Even so I ended up with a nasty bruise in the side of my head.

    Months later I found out that the lead guy(he was black, the other two hispanic i think) was arrested after his 2 accomplices turned him in. In another of those robberies the lead guy "accidentally" killed their victim when throwing the guy to the floor. He hit his head in the pavement and never got up again. The other two guys then decided to turn themselves in and point the finger at the lead guy so they could get a better sentence.

    That could have been me or one of my friends. If I were any of you guys I would never ignore my instincts for the sake of not looking like a racist or scared of young guys with hoodies or whatever else you can come up with. As a hispanic person that has been exposed to the gang culture, I know just how dangerous an encounter like that can be. Trust your instincts. Don't risk your life because of pride or your desire to prove to yourself or others how unprejudiced you are. Staying alive and well should be your highest priority.
     
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  2. GoRox2013

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    Stupid. Crime doesn't only start with black ppl lol. Those stereotypes are perpetuated mostly by the entertainment business (movies, music, news). Plus last time I checked, African Americans aren't the ones behind most of these mass shooting. So who exactly should really you be afraid of? Food for thought.
     
  3. Sajan

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    People stereotype about everything and anything. Maybe they got an HTC phone one time that didn't have great battery life...guess what..they will say every HTC phone sucks from now on. That's just how people are.

    It's almost basic instinct if you think in terms of survival. From past experiences and things they have seen, they find commonalities that can help them avoid danger next time they encounter it. Whether it's a black person in a hoodie at night.....or driving through east of 288..
     
  4. cjtaylorpt

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    Once you become successful, you have to hide everything.
     
  5. Tfor3

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    I get what he is saying. Tbh, I would clean those comments up as far as skin color: If I'm walking by myself late at night and I see a large dog loose on my side of the street or a human being of any race/gender coming to me or behind me- I'm naturally going to create space between myself and them. It is human nature/self preservation.

    If the human beings appear large or have hats on down low or hoodies or anything that prevents me from seeing facial expressions under the streetlights or disallows me to see their eyes - I will be more on alert. It is just human nature.
     
  6. hotballa

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    so its the media's fault that I've been robbed about 10 times in my life and all of them were by black people? Maybe they was just super tanned white people and I only thought they were black because I watched a rap video?:grin:

    and really, would you rather have one guy crazy enough to shoot up a place and potentially killing lots of people or 12 guys crazy enough to shoot up 12 different places and potentially killing lots of people?
     
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    Its about connotations of violence and the likelihood of it happening. I mentioned white skin heads and a tatted Mexican grabbing his crotch. People of each race should know better rather than pretending the stereotypes aren't there for a reason. You jump into the ring with that attitude, expect to be hit.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Wow, you've been robbed 10 times in your life? You're doing something wrong.
     
  9. hotballa

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    I lived in Brooklyn during the David Dinkins years. Not a fun time
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    Ah, fair enough.
     
  11. Buck Turgidson

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    Remember when George Steinbrenner could never keep his mouth shut and was in the news seemingly every other week? I don't miss that at all.

    Jerry Jones should also heed your advice.
     
  12. adobo

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    The bottom line is the class of society rather than race. Having black, white or brown skin has nothing to do with it.

    If you grew up in a lower class (poorer suburbs) where unemployment is high and with a poor education system then generally the crime rate is higher.

    Now if you're a kid that grew up in these suburbs, you have a higher chance that you're parents are unemployed, uneducated and probably dabbled in drugs or other illegal activities. Their is also a good chance you are friends with kids who are in similar situation as you are. Then it just becomes a vicious cycle, where you repeat the same mistakes that you're parents made and then passing it on again to their own kids.

    Their are ghetto's in Russia and other part of eastern Europe where the crime rate is so high that it makes some of the black ghetto's in America look like the Hamptons. Last time I checked, eastern Europe are white. You can say the same thing for some Asian countries (last time I checked Asian were brown/yellow).
     
  13. whozee

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    Reminds me of that joke;

    "Why did the Mark Cuban cross the road?"
     
  14. Rox11

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    Man I cannot stand the way yall act....2014 okay we get it we should be open minded, but a man can't say his mind anymore?

    I see people making racial jokes, stereotyping and discriminating everyday in one way or another. This is the world people. Before someone says they are "sorry" for me that I see it like that or, that I am being generalized towards others. ..
    To not do said things (not racism) I's not human. It's natural.
     
  15. meh

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    He said this at a conference speech where he supposedly was imparting wisdom of becoming successful. I'm quite sure staying away from black people while walking on the street is probably not something that naturally goes into such a speech.
     
  16. Easy

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    Maybe, just maybe, he did walk down the street to work in the Dairy Queen. :grin:

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  17. J Hard

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    Im not a b!t=& so I dont running away from noonw. But cuban is fraudulent idiot who couldntve pivk a worse analogy than a kid in a hoodie. Unless youre ok with the Trayvon tragedy, that was tasteless by this pretentious attention w****.

    I understand the undertones that we all have prevonveieved notions about a certain type of image BUT if this is in somehow an inadverdent way to absolve and defend donald duck sterling, then he has lost the one iota of respect I didnt really have of him.

    mark cuban was quiet after the sterling tape, then called it a 'slippery slope' (what an idiot). Then after the Adam Silver announcement, applauds the decision (fraud). And now coming out with a punk comment like this. Cuban is a is a delusional, hypocritical bigot enabling, fraud.
     
  18. Easy

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    Seriously, Cuban was probably unwise to use that example in a public speech like that. (He later apologized.) But awareness of one's own prejudice is a sign of maturity. I have to give him that. I see a lot of people on CF who are regularly unaware and are in denial of their racism, stereotyping, and prejudice.
     
  19. GoRox2013

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    The point is, it's wrong to stereotype regardless of what race it is. If that's not the case then we ALL should be scared of middle aged whitemen, because statistics show their more likely to randomly shoot up ppl for absolutely no reason. Most of the crimes African Americans commit are against African Americans lol. So I'm sorry for your experiences. But a black kid simply wearing a hoodie is not the equivalent to skinhead w/ tattoos. It's a false equivalent. I should be able to wear the hoodie of my choice without being compared to a hate group or domestic terrorist lol
     
  20. hotballa

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    yeah thats great and all, but it's a strawman. I was just as poor as the people who robbed me. They went after me cuz I wasn't black, pure and simple. They acted on the xenophobic tendencies that every single person will default to because that's what we were born with (just look at prison gangs)
     

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