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[Woj] Houston plans to pursue Kevin Love

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Swishh, May 18, 2014.

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  1. Willis25

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  2. Rockets FTW

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    You do realize that it's flat-out not going to happen though, right? The issue isn't discussing the idea. It's that you incessantly post about an unrealistic idea. If I posted 4 polls and countless comments about LeBron opting out and signing here, I'd probably get banned.

    Either that or you're hurr hurr trolling so I guess if you enjoy that then it must be cool for you.
     
  4. Carl Herrera

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    Why shouldn't Lebron consider signing in Houston if a sign and trade could be worked out? It's a pretty good situation and who knows what will happen to Miami with all 3 of their best guys being able to opt for free agency this summer. I am sure Morey will at least check in with Lebron's agent on this possibility.

    Some of us, including Morey, don't think in terms of "flat out won't happen" but would consider all available info and possible outcome. Morey's done moves that many here vehemently disagreed with (Gay for Battier, for one) and came out of nowhere to the surprise of people. He has chased trades and free agents that many people here say he had no chance of getting and shouldn't even bother with.
     
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    can you get a special title but instead of 'running with scissors' it could be 'notable poster'

    look - from my perspective, you seem to be the champion for the lesser side of the argument on most rockets related issues. You've picked apart move after move and continually state the pessimistic side out of some strange disposition or need to play a character on a web board.

    Case in point:

    Love for Harden: Harden is 24, has been incredibly successful but has a glaring weakness. Guess what? Most greats had to learn to play on the defensive side too so let's not rush the gun and trade our most promising player since a healthy Yao Ming/Tracy McGrady because "we don't think he'll turn the corner on d". Especially not for a no D playing power forward that has never even gotten his team to the playoffs - even with a good coach and decent talent surrounding him.

    Dragic or Harden: Um.... Dragic didn't do what Harden did - get us to the playoffs. In fact - correct me if I'm wrong, but Dragic took Phoenix to the same place he took us his last season here - just outside staring in. As good as he is and as much as I would prefer him over Lin, he is not on the same level as Harden.

    Patrick Patterson: I've never gotten the point with that argument and you even lightly conceded at the end. That move was always about Dwight and was exceedingly clear at the time that it was. Always. Even funnier - your boy T-Rob actually played quite well against us in the playoffs. Sidenote: PP is not nearly as good as you believe him to be. Clue - he is not our missing savior.

    The player with the opportunity to make the biggest impact on the franchise next season is not a free agent or trade piece, it's James Harden. If he commits to defense and improves his halfcourt offense against a double team (also known as fully committing and arriving in shape), he can propel us to the next level - something that no one else outside of attaining Lebron James could do. Not no d Melo or no d Love.
     
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    Does anyone really thinkwe have anythign more than a puncher's chance to get Love? Let's assume for a moment that th teams interested make offers that are actually reasonable, can we compete with:

    GSW: Barnes, Lee, Thompson for Love and Budinger
    If the rumors of Love wanting to be warm and in contention then the Ws ar his remedy. Even giving up the yound talent they would have to, they are still left with Curry/?/Iggy/Love/Bogut as starters for coach Kerr. Perhaps if Love's position is Golden State or bust they make the deal without Thompson and Budinger involved.

    Boston: Wallace, Olynk and #6 for Love
    Once again, Love deciding to re-up is the key. In this package Minnesota gets a guy locked up for a spell and cap relief in addition to a top pick to play with in addition to their own (#13).

    Cle: Varejao, Jack and #1 for Love
    If Cleveland thinks LeBron would ever consider returning from South Beach this is their chance to give him a reason. Playing with Uncle Drew and Wes back home might be appealing to 'Bron if Miami doesnt get their 3peat (Trademarked - Pat Riley)

    LAL: Office supplies + #7 for Love
    Only way this happens is if Love refuses to sign an extension with anyone else and the NBA overtly gives every other team operating under the CBA the middle finger.

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    No way we are competing with the above.
     
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    Repped. You speak the truth. You got some dumbasses here with some stupid harden trade scenarios. They're either some dumbass that doesn't know anything or you just have disturbingly low basketball IQ.
     
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    At the end of the day, love will go to where HE decides where he wants to go. Teams will not trade for love without signing a long term contract.

    IF love wants to come to houston, then he will come to houston. Minnesota will take whatever we give them. Love has all the leverage.
     
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    Not 100% true, Love has one more year to be free, just like Howard in LA, some teams want to take the chance for Love without knowing if a long term contract is a sure thing. For Lakers, they thought Howard would stay, but he did not.

     
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    Lakers are looking to part with the pick and promising rookie R. Kelly (to the Lakers promising).

    Doubt it will be close to enough. (obviously other pieces.
     
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    If the Lakers are gifted Love for the 7th pick and Ryan freaking Kelly, it will be Pau Gasol trade* all over again.

    *Yes, I know, in the end the trade arguably worked out well for both sides, but you know what I mean.
     
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    They then will try to focus on Lebron winning in LA.

    If they can't do that (very likely).

    They feel Melo will come.
     
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    Yea, I just can't see the Lakers being able to offer enough.

    If I am Minnesota, I'm looking to deal with Cleveland.

    I honestly think we have a better offer than LA or GSW (assuming we can get a nice pick for Asik and Parsons is valuable to Minny). The Bulls and the Celtics could probably trump our offer though.


    You have this information about Lebron and Melo. I know 100% the Rockets want LeBron but I don't know their chances (if there is any). What do you think happens for the Rockets? Deng couldn't be our only move.
     
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    Literally none of those things are true.
     
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    Hahahahah
     
  17. cyberx

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    I know - I LOL'ed as well...

    Hey - the team is trying to sell him on his "uprise". Part of their job!
     
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    A better question is how is it possible for the lakers to trade for Love? They'd have to send like 4 players (including Nash) to get it done.
     
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    This is a good point, and a reason why I think this will end up dragging out to Feb of next year, teams like Golden State will tread much lighter than some in the national media will make it out. They will give up David Lee & maybe Harrison Barnes, but you can forget about Klay Thompson.

    Oddly enough, the Lakers are the one team I could see coughing up their lottery pick this year even though they should be reminded of the Dwight situation more than anyone else.

    The Rockets???... I think they should be cautious about giving up Parsons for this very reason. (Harden... no way. Shouldn't even think about it). Picks & Asik/Lin & Jones/D-Mo for sweeteners... yes. I think they will go all in, and gamble just as much if not more than anyone else.

    ................

    Here's the kicker-

    As of July 1st, Love will be able to sign an extension with Minnesota. Is the Wolves trade package from any of these teams going to be that dramatically different in February as it is now??? IMO no. Its a smart move for The Wolves to hang onto Love, see how the first half of the season goes, and offer him the contract extension in January. All else fails, and you still get a very similar package back of picks, expiring contracts, and young talent anyways. Maybe you get a solid player back like Lee if you opt for that package instead.

    However... the one thing to consider is if for some reason a team (Cleveland at #1, Boston at #6, and Lakers at #7) offers their lotto pick in a deal this Summer... THAT will be the game changer in this Kevin Love sweepstakes, but I dont see it happening for the reasons you stated. More than likely, I see Minnesota NOT getting one of these 3 offers, and we get "Love-Drama" articles from ESPN, Yahoo, and we get to debate on here until February of next year when the Rockets (if they dont make moves this Summer), Bulls, GS, Lakes, etc. are making a trade bid at the deadline for Love after he rejects the Wolves one final time.
     
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    They did the same with Marc Gasol and it worked for both parties. Thanks for the information, I'm jealous of your position that allows you to get this information.
     
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