I'd much, MUCH rather the possibility of luring Lowry back with a new coach and going for Millsap - as opposed to going for Love and McHale stays.
It'd really be Love and some MLE 3&D guy (P.J. Tucker, Trevor Ariza, Shawn Marion, ...), given that the Rockets would still have the MLE if they were to trade for Love, but not if they were to sign Melo. The Melo, Parsons and Jones package might still be more desirable, but what are the odds of Melo (or any other max guy) signing with the Rockets? Are they high enough that you don't go hard after Love when you are one of the teams he'd like to join?
For those that are really trying to get rid of Harden for Love how about this: Harden & Asik for Love & KMart Personally I wouldn't trade Harden since it's generally a bad idea to trade a 24 year old talent like Harden but what other team could come close to giving Minnesota back fair talent like that. I would prefer sending a package starting with CP25, TJones and Asik but there are teams that could probably out bid us with that package.
With all due respect, STOP! I really can't believe you said that! NO WE DON'T!... ....... ....... .......
It depends. Love would not make as much money as Melo and Parsons combined by the time Chandler gets his new deal. So there'd be something left over to sign a 3 to replace Parsons. Jones obviously is superfluous if Love is here. So really it's more like Love and Parsons' replacement vs. Melo and Parsons which is hard to determine until we know who the Rockets get. But I'd still prefer Love over Melo when just comparing 3rd stars. He's nearly 5 years younger. He compliments Dwight perfectly(which can't be said for Melo and Harden). And he's a better player right now than Melo. If the Rockets could land Love for Asik, Parsons, and Jones(and other filler like maybe Lin and draft picks), you do that deal in a heartbeat.
Wouldn't it have to? Unless it's a 3-way trade, Asik is redundant since the T'Wolves already have Pekovic and Dieng(plus Asik can bolt as a free agent next summer). They don't need Lin. Jones is a solid young prospect, but he's obviously not a replacement for Love. And our draft picks won't be worth much if we have a trio of Harden, Love, and Howard on this team for the foreseeable future. Our only remaining asset is Parsons. And if this deal is done soon, it could allow Minnesota to resign Chandler as a restricted free agent.
Expand your trade value horizons. Minny wouldn't have to trade for Asik to keep him. They could flip him for a pick. Or they could keep him and put Pek up for trade.
LOL...Having to include Parsons in a deal for Love, won't be a deal breaker! I like Chandler, but c'mon, this is freaking Love we're talking about! Morey does it every day of the week and twice on Sunday! ....... ....... .......
I can't for the life of me figure out why Love would prefer the Warriors, Celtics, Lakers, Bulls or Suns over us...hoping that's not actually the case. I sort of get the "big city" attraction but Melo had the identical situation a few years ago and that hasn't really worked out (assuming winning a ring is the priority over individual stats and money). We have the strongest team by far out of that group and would almost assuredly be a top 3 team with Dwight, Harden and Love as our core. My hope is that we can move Asik and our pick to Atlanta to move up in the draft and package Parsons and Jones with the draft pick (MIN would probably want next years first rounder too) and get a deal done. I don't think the rebuild/growth in Phoenix or Boston is going to be that quick to convince Love to sign a new deal. LA is the wild card - the one place I could see him wanting to play versus wanting to win. Chicago is a maybe but I don't think a package with Taj Gibson as the centerpiece is good enough either. Minnesota with 2 top 15 picks in this draft and a core of Rubio, Martin, Parsons, Jones, and Pek is at least young(ish) and promising. If they can get Shabazz Muhammed to finally play they should have a decent group to get excited about. Zach LaVine and James Young should be available at those picks - that's a pretty intriguing team. Keeping expectations low but just can't see why Minnesota prefers any of the other deals being discussed with a decent core already. They're not going full rebuild. Packages involving Gibson/Dunleavy, Barnes/Lee, Sullinger/Green, Dragic/Morris just don't seem that much more attractive even with a higher pick and certainly won't put them in a position to compete with OKC or Portland anytime soon.
True. But it would still be a gamble for Minnesota. If they keep Asik with the intention of resigning him, he could leave for another team. If they trade for Asik with the hopes of flipping him for a pick or another player down the road, there's no guarantee they'll get equal value in return. I just don't see how the Rockets can get Love without giving up Jones and Parsons.
It's not going to happen BamBam. You have to know the behind the scenes stuff. You have to understand that. Parsons was the main recruiter of Dwight, even more so than Harden. Parsons was the guy that tugged on his cape everyday and did a tremendous amount of campaigning with Dwight to get him here. Morey isn't going to trade him. He's going to figure out another way to get a superstar in here without trading Parsons...even if it means waiting one more season. All the talk about trading Parsons is a waste of time and bandwidth. You should be more concerned that we will possibly trade Patrick Beverley.
Minny will either trade for Asik to keep him or they'll complete a multiple team deal that yields them a pick. They're not going to hold Asik on a one-year deal and attempt to trade him for a pick at the deadline while running the risk of him coming up injured. Gotta be logical here. Asik will either go to a 3rd team for a pick and a player that goes to Minny or Minny will keep Asik for themselves and attempt to move out Pek (which is what they should do......trade Pek to ATL for Millsap).
Yea, what good does it make for us to get Kevin Love and then lose again in the first Round? I appreciate the recruiting effort on McHale, but that's not what Head Coach is all about.
Here's my take on Love. He's a regular season monster - huge stats and can shoot the 3 pretty well. However, he is unproven in the playoffs. Can he withstand the kind of defense teams play in the postseason? Does he play consistent solid D? Is he going to turn into another Harden? I'd rather go for a better PG like Rondo than Love.
I am not sure if I want to trade both Jones and DMo just for Love unless the FA backup C/PF is a really solid guy. I just don't understand all the fascination of the Dleaguers. Sure, there have been some gems. But I wouldn't bet my luck for them. Canaan, Daniels, and Covington can shoot. But have they proven to be real NBA level rotation players? Think about all the players people were excited about: Mike Harris, Jermaine Taylor, Von Wafer, Steve Novak, Ish Smith, Greg Smith, etc. How many of them has much of a decent NBA career?
I can think of reasons why: Warriors - They play an exciting run-and-gun style of ball. They're already a playoff team. And they made a decent run in the postseason last year, even giving the Spurs a scare. Celtics - They're only a few years removed from being contenders and Ainge has shown he has the ability to put together a title team overnight once he's stockpiled enough assets. Lakers - See Boston Celtics. They're perennial contenders, the glamor franchise in the NBA, a huge market, and Love played college ball there. Bulls - If Rose is healthy and they add Love, they could easily vault back into contender status in a weak Eastern Conference. He'd also fit nicely alongside Noah. Suns - Like the Warriors, they play an entertaining run-and-gun style of play. They nearly made the playoffs despite having no quality big man(an issue which Love would resolve immediately), have a ton of assets stockpiled, and are young and up-and-coming.
Well, you might be right, just don't forget that we're dealing with "ASSET" Morey! We're talking about Kevin Love, a bona fide YOUNG superstar, I'm not sure Morey could resist the temptation and go against his very nature! As far as Beverley being traded, I love what he brings to the team, but he's replaceable, I DEFINITELY don't see him being a deal breaker! ....... ....... .......
Yes, we are dealing with "ASSET" Morey. But there is an end game. Morey ain't dealing Harden. He ain't dealing Howard. Nor is he dealing Parsons. Everybody else....fair game.
