Stop being negative. Most of us think we are a 8-10 win team because of the schedule. Vegas has the Texans at 8.
We gave the game away against seattle last year even with the lame offense we had. You telling me the offense will be worse than last year?
Of course they can restructure...but they will not keep him at a 16 million dollar cap hit that is his current contract. If he wants to remain a Texan he either has to take a pay cut or restructure his deal. You're the one that said he has 3 years left on his contract...but when you first made that comment, you werent aware of the actual situation at hand, which is really that he has 1 year left. Charlie P was actually critical of Andre's comments and said that he made a dumb decision by making it public. And keep listening to Charlie, he hasnt ruled out that it's more about money than actually winning. You're knowledge of everything is so elementary, lol. First the Pancakes lovefest and now this, lol.
Exactly what many of us have been saying. Nobody is cutting Andre down, just understanding that there are better ways to go about his frustrations. Poor decision, specially coming from an 11 year veteran that is under contract and has no leverage. Nobody is saying he shouldnt be frustrated or that he should shut up and play...but, he should keep this stuff private. I know it must suck to not be on a winning team while seeing that you're going to be a cap casualty, but that's the nature of the business. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10944471/andre-johnson-cast-frustrations-aside-help-team-rally-bill-obrien
The above tends to seem to align with AJ's frustrations. KC made their turnaround in part because the first thing the new coach did was go get a real QB. Arizona made their run in part because they got a real QB. The fact that AJ said this after the draft seems to suggest his frustration is not about money, but about the QB situation. He probably sat through the draft hoping for a legit QB and got Tom Savage, and his frustrations boiled over. At best, now he's looking at a multi-year development for Savage, building around Fitzpatrick, or starting over again next year after this year's crop of mediocrity all fail. Either way, I can see why he's disappointed. The real question is whether he calms down or decides this is the time to try to force his way out.
I don't think Andre Johnson gets enough blame for the state of the Texans. Let's go back to the off-season before the 2011 season for a moment. Andre Johnson is under contract for 5 more years yet holds out for a new contract. He misses valuable time in camp because he wants more money. The Texans rip up his deal and kill the cap by making him the highest paid WR even though they didn't have to do so. Andre is happy, but his conditioning isn't where it needs to be as a result of the missed time and he ends up only playing 7 games for a 10 win team. Maybe that season was doomed no matter what, but when you only get your star WR for 7 games, you never know what could have been. That contract we gave him killed the cap and we've lost guys as cap casualties every season since then. If Andre really cared about winning, he wouldn't have killed the cap and he'd have been in camp getting his conditioning where it needed to be in order to avoid injury. He didn't care about winning, and I argue that he doesn't really care about winning now. His BS this off-season is 100% contract related, just like the last time. I just hope we learn the lesson and tell him to suck it up and deal with it rather than killing the cap for him.
I'd be shocked if he forces his way out...I just dont see that happening at all. As far as the QB situation...if he really felt that getting a Manziel or Bridgewater would be the answer, then he's very clueless. The Texans wouldnt be in any better of a position, specially since that would mean that we would have either sacrificed Clowney or a couple of the other draft picks we got. As of right now Fitzpatrick is much more accomplished than any QB we could have drafted. If Andre is thinking about the potential 3 years from now, then yes, I understand his frustrations about the position. However, 3 years from now is completely irrelevant to the current situation.
He just went public after the draft, he's been complaining ever since they shot down his request for a new contract. This has nothing to do with the QB situation. Reaching on a QB wouldn't have changed anything other than it would have hurt the team.
I agree, he doesn't have the leverage to "force his way out". His options are 1. Play for the Texans till they choose to make him a cap casualty. 2. Retire There is no 3rd option.
I'm assuming he's not thinking one-year only. If so, he knows he's not likely to win a SB this year. So he's probably looking at it as "I have x good years left" and if he sees Fitz as a stopgap, then this is sort of a wasted year in that regard. This fits into bobby's point that it's about his contract. If he's thinking he has just a few years left and knows he's likely to get cut next year with his current contract, he might want out now or want a contract restructured. Otherwise, he's wasting a year on a rebuilding project where he won't be around for the results.
How do you know missing camp led to injury? Also, I've never seen a breakdown of how his deal affected the cap. By far, the worst injury that has affected the team was Schaub's broken foot on that stupid QB sneak.
Don't suggest peoples opinions are influenced by attitude. Someone could tell you to stop being so positive. We can't ignore what we see in front of us. Don't really appreciate being called negative about it. I'll say this. There is no way the texans finish 8-10. Absolutely won't.
Actually there is a 3rd option. Just show up for the Texans and collect a check and don't give his all on the field like Clowney did last season at SC. If Dre stays. Good chance he doesn't go out there and give 100% effort and try to save himself for the following year.
Of course not. There are only 16 games in a season. 8 wins is very realistic. There is still some decent talent and a potentially much better coach.
If AJ forced a trade/refused to play would that change any of your opinions on the guy? Honestly, I really wouldn't care. Maybe it is my depraved Houston sports fan mentality, but I really don't think AJ was ever happy here...and thats cool with me. I remember so interview where he said he wanted to leave after his first contract but his Uncle or cousin convinced him to stay.
how does that help him? he would be cut from houston and miss out on a crap load of $ because no team will pay a 34 year old malcontent.
