Western Conference Semifinals: (2) Oklahoma City vs. (3) LA Clippers

cp3 didn't even cry. he said it was all on him, and the worst stretch in his career and didn't blame the refs at all, so not sure what you saw what he said.

doc on the other hand, sure. but we would all be furious if we were in the clippers situation.

 

I'd actually be furious that we blew the lead but not about that call. Being a Rockets fan doesn't mean that I couldn't see that the right team got the ball. That call didn't decide the game. They were still up by 2 and if not for another terrible CP3 decision they probably win.

 

So, how much do they fine Doc for slamming the officials?

As for the call, I've got no problem with it. I don't think the Clippers were robbed. They got away with a foul. Doc wants to win on a technicality. He got away with a foul on a technicality and lost the review on a technicality. Given the circumstances, I think the call was the most fair outcome of possible outcomes. And the Clippers benefited more than they should have on the trade-off.

 

of course it's easy to say that when it's not our team and of course we would be mad that we gave up the game being up 7 with like 45 sec left. However, look at how many Rockets fan were mad with the incorrect Dwight foul at the end of the game, when we choke up the lead in the last couple minutes of regulation and choked it being up 6 in OT.

doc had his post game conference right after the game, of course he'd still be emotional. i think it's fair for Doc to go off

 

I get what Doc was doing. He was defending his team and I'm not saying he shouldn't have. But that still doesn't make his position any less ridiculous/silly to me and it is not what I would have done if I were him.

 

Look in the last 3-4 minutes, Crawford jacked up 2-3 30 ft jumpers. CP3 jacked up 3 jumpers. Nobody attacked the rim and forced the issue.

When you play to protect a lead, usually bad things happen. Blaming CP3 for the choke is easy. But the best PG didn't get his team good shots, nor closing out a game when they were in complete control. Hell, even when they were making shots, those were miracle jumpshots (outside of Barnes floater - the only good shot the Clips too basically the last 6-7 minutes of the game).

Poor execution by CP3. And zero coaching by Doc Rivers.

 

I don't get the logic that since the foul non-call was not reviewable, so the refs must have jobbed the Clippers. If the play was called correctly from the start, there wouldn't even be any review about the out-of-bound call. Sure, they could have given the ball to the Clippers. But that would have been a bigger rig against the Thunder.

Anyway, I have zero sympathy for the Clippers, especially for Chris Paul for any bad calls against them. Paul is the biggest flopper in the league and got away with countless unfair calls in his favor. Karma just caught up on him.

BTW, Jamal Crawford flops every time he shoots. They should crack down on him.

 

Agreed, the clippers choked away a big lead and the fair call was made. Doc was upset because he thought the same call went against him in the 1st round but thats NBA consistency for ya'. If he hadn't spent so much time arguing maybe he could set up a shot for his team last play.

 

If the Reggie Jackson play was called correctly (foul on Matt Barnes) , then Reggie Jackson would have went to the line to tie the game up (potentially missing one) . Instead, the Thunder got the ball back which led to Russel Westbrook getting 3 free throws.

If the calls were made appropriately, the outcome could have been very different. Either way, the Clippers were screwed, and that game may have very well cost them the series. Crucial is an understatement.

 

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I agree with this - actually the only part where I would feel 'bad' for the clippers is that what happened to them in game one against Golden State probably hurt them here. The NBA had to issue an apology and there was a huge outcry at the lack of a foul called then. Not wanting that to happen again and since there was some 'gray' area as to whether or not the angles were conclusive or not (unlike the Paul incident from that previous game 1 where it was pretty conclusive it was out on Paul) the refs went with giving the ball to OKC which I felt was right. If Barnes never fouled Jackson is either getting up a layup or lobbing that to Westbrook or Durant for a layup. Had the ball been awarded to the Clippers the outcry for the blown call which is then magnified because of the replay would have been all over and now it would have been that the referees missed TWO crucial calls late that were pretty clear on the replay. I doubt the league wanted to issue another apology for the same reason.

The ball was awarded to OKC after the Jackson play - no free throws were automatically awarded to OKC. The resulting play where Paul fouls Westbrook is completely independent was a huge mistake on Paul's part. Westbrook getting the 3 free throws was not a result of OKC getting awarded the ball on the Jackson play - it was a result of a dumb foul by Paul. OKC could have done one of many things including missing a shot and the clippers getting the rebound and game over. Quite frankly Westbrook took a terrible shot and was bailed out because Paul fouled him.

Giving the ball to OKC was actually the best possible outcome for the clippers - they were still up 2 with 12-13 seconds left and OKC still needing to make a play. They play solid defense and they come away with a 3-2 series lead. Had a foul been called or OKC scored - this game is going to OT where more than likely given how OKC had all the momentum towards the end of the game - had the upper hand (along with that crowd being in it). This scenario actually gave the Clippers the best chance at winning the game The Clippers unfortunately (well Paul) made a stupid play in fouling Westbrook on a 3.

The refs have been horrible this entire postseason - but I think they actually did the right thing on that play in giving OKC the ball This game came down to more about the clippers choking away a big lead than the refs giving the game to OKC at the end.

 

How were they screwed when you yourself note if the play was called correctly then Jackson is shooting FT's?

 

So you agree that the refs basically made a make up call? They realized they should have called the foul on Barnes and that TECHNICALLY, it should be Clippers ball, but to make it up for the Thunder, they let them retain the ball. I agree that the Thunder should have got the ball because of the foul, however, based on the NBA's own rule, the ball should have without a doubt went to the Clippers.

No guarantee that Jackson would have hit both free throws. He's a great free throw shooter (and player) , but that would have been a ton of pressure on him. And best case scenario, the game would have went to overtime; although as YoYo said, OKC might have had the advantage due to their momentum, but you can never know.

 

I will say this though, anytime you have Salvatore and Tony Brothers in the same game...bad things will happen. Funny thing is that Simmons called it before the game started.

 

I don't recall any player, much less an elite player, screwing up this many times at the end of a game as CP3 did in this one. Fouling the 3pt shooter, a jump pass (in the back court, no less), losing the ball going down the lane (debatable if he was fouled), and not fouling after the turnover.

How does he not get grilled for this, instead people are concentrating on the refs and conspiracy theories. Clips have plenty of opportunities to close the game, they (mainly CP3) lost it on their own.

 

If the rule that hittting the hand is sufficient to make the ball out on you applies here, then no I don't think it's a make-up call. It would be sufficient for the ref to find that the foul caused the ball to go out without even having it whistle it a foul. The hole in that is that the refs didn't appeal to that rule in explaining themselves. But, maybe they should have.

 

If Jackson was sent to the line it could have led to 1 made free throw followed by a missed free throw like you said - with serge batting it back for a KD 3 for a 2 point lead plus a flagrant foul on Barnes as he clotheslines WB, giving OKC 2 more points and the ball...

Talk about lucky they gave the ball to OKC instead!



In reality, OKC got the ball down 2. Preceded to get fouled. And gave the Clippers the ball with plenty of time to make a basket to win the game with the final shot.

 

Strong no-call on Griffin hugging/holding Sefalosha for 12 feet. Nobody can complain about the no-call on Jackson fouling Paul.

 

Report: Clippers coach Doc Rivers yelled at Thunder owner Clay Bennett after Game 5

 

What a joke...

The Clippers in the playoffs have now played 6 games decided by 5 points or less.

The Clippers are 3-3 in those 6 games (amazingly coin flip like).

The Clippers are not getting screwed....