Hi McHale, Did you watch how spurs defeated the blazers?

You have to look at it from the owner's point of view. As far as Les is concerned, a flameout in the first round is a flameout in the first round, regardless of how attractive the players are. If it happens again in spite of overwhelming evidence that the coach needed to be fired, Morey could be out.

 

It's not my nature to let injustice go completely unopposed. I can't be everywhere, but I do what I can.

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That is what I'm saying. Parker's numbers are somewhat inflated due to playing with Duncan and Ginobili, and to having one of the best coaches ever.

In contrast, Lin's coach for the last two seasons must be one of the worst ever. How dumb does a coach have to be not to realize, for two whole years, that one of the best pick-and-rollers in the NBA needs lots of picks?

Also, Lin was able to achieve Linsanity with a team of scrubs, which is something Parker has never done -- not even close. This is evidence that Lin could be at least as good as Parker.

 

I'm sure they would've turned out just as great if they had been drafted by Minnesota when McHale as at the helm..... brilliant...

 

Are there any stats or evidence the current Rockets suck at mid range shots?

 

DRTG as calculated by Basketball Reference (BR) utilizes a sophisticated formula that is essentially box score based: http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/ratings.html (each term shown below is explained at this site).

DRtg (via BR) = TMDRtg + %TMDPoss * [100 x DPtsPerScPoss * (1- Stop%) - TMDRTG], wherein:

DRtg = Player defensive rating (in this case)
TMDRtg = Team DRTg; e.g., the number of points a team allows per 100 possessions
%TMDPoss = Percent of the Team defensive Possessions; e.g., the percentage of the defensive possessions in which player X was the primary defender. This term attempts to credit Player X for stops (failures to score) or blame Player X if points are scored while he is the primary defender.
DPtsPerScPoss = Defensive Points per Scoring Possessions; e.g., the number of points Player X allows when a shot is made. For example, Player X could commit a foul that results in points even though Player X was not the primary defender when the shot was made.
Stops% = STL + BLK + FMwt * (1 - 1.07 * DOR%) + DREB * (1 - FMwt), where BLK = blocks, STL = steals, DREB = defensive rebounds, DOR = [Off Rebound/(Off. Reb + Team Def, Rebounds)], and FMwt = forced turnovrs, missed shots and free throws. The term attempts to credit Player X for stopped scoring opportunities or blame Player X for failures to stop scoring opportunities.

NBA.com DRtg: these guys simply track the number of points a team allows, normalized to 100 possessions, when Player X is on the floor. This is explained here at SBNation.com: http://www.slcdunk.com/2013/1/31/3939352/the-offbeat-a-quick-note-on-individual-defensive-ratings. This DRtg metric has nothing to do with steals, rebounds, forced turnovers, missed free throws, etc. For example, basketball reference DRtg carries a big man bias; players that collect high number of defensive rebounds and/or blocked shots results in lowered (very favorable) DRtg, while at the same time, it punishes backcourt player (guards that are generally smaller so generally do not collect high numbers of defensive rebounds and/or blocked shots via much higher DRtg numbers (very unfavorable). NBA.com's DRtg treats all five defensive players the same; there is no box score bias.

Lin and Beverley: Jeremy Lin's DRtg via Basketball Reference = 118, but is much better via NBA.com = 108, I suspect for reasons discussed above. Think of it this way. We all know Patrick Beverley is a good defender, so any metric that rates him as the worst defender on the Rockets team (he earned a team worse 119 in the playoffs against the Trailblazers via Basketball Reference) should suggest that others resources are needed to get the entire picture.

 

Comparing Lin and Parker is insane. I've been a spurs fan for forever so I know basically Parker grew his play being surrounded by one of the best players in the league (Duncan) and the best Coach in NBA (Popovich).

The guy isn't what he is today without the system of SA which promotes team unity/distribution of bball/proper play regardless of win and loss, and being trained/guided/hounded everyday by Pop about what his proper role is on the court.

Compare that to Lin who obviously has a perennial question mark in his forehead from his Coach, who's had inconsistent minutes and role for 2 years now, I mean what the **** is he really on their team, a backup PG or SG? And it looks like their system is incapable of harnessing their whole roster's strength as well.

So yeah, stop saying Lin is better than Parker and etc, because they didn't have the same environment AT ALL. It's damn ridiculous and laughable even, if you compare the talents that Pop raised and Mchale did, Pop can turn any scrubs into a worthy player while the latter has clearly done none of that.

You'd think he's at least develop his players with his long tenure in Minnesota and here in Rockets. Isn't 3 years enough?

Anyway, this argument won't get us anywhere. And trade Lin already. Get that 3rd superstar and replace Mchale if he is still not in the zone.

 

You went in strong with this post.


I like Lin, although I definitely want a third star.

But I have to say, I can agree with just about everything said here.

 

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Very in depth analysis of game two (40 minutes):

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why did you turn a girl?

 

Tongue and cheek to those with IQ above 100.

 

Man I think the rockets could at least win 1 or 2 games vs San Antonio.

 

In theory... but certainly not with this coaching staff...


If this team mentally collapsed against Portland, it would've done worse against the Spurs...

 

If we get rid of "Moreyball", Lin would become a third star..........

 

Tongue in cheek*

The irony.

 

Been one since 1982.

 

Mchale is actually good at player development.

On court decisions? nope, creating an offense or defense? nope, but he's been quite successful at player development.

KG, Love, Dragic and even Lowry have all credited him...

But there's that other saying, you can't get blood from a stone (or should i say stone from a blood to fit into this conversation QT?).

 

LOL. Makes no difference to me.... I have a low IQ.

 

How do you know that Les isn't the one dictating that milk hair stays? I'd like to think that Morey is smart enough to see how unprepared and undisciplined the rockets were in the Portland series.

Its so embarrasing as a Rockets fan to watch the Spurs completely dismantle the Blazers. Watching Stotts get outcoached by Pop just makes the job that Stotts did on milk hair sting that much more.

One thing is for sure, as long as milk hair is coach, I'll be tempering my expectations no matter which "big-time" free agent Morey brings in. Fifty or so wins, limping into the post season after another late season collapse and a first round exit is all I'll be expecting from this team until they bring in someone who can actually coach. I just hope its sooner rather than later.

 

I agree, the only way that I would raise my expectations is if we get a second superstar who can help Dwight in the playoffs and totally ignore what Mchale has to say.

 

Unlikely. If Les were that much of a micromanager, he would never have allowed his cash cow (Jeremy Lin) to be demoted so unfairly to the bench.

No, these days Les is probably an absentee owner; he concerns himself with only the biggest events. A premature playoff exit is undoubtedly important enough for him to notice -- and if it should happen for a third time next year, Morey could be striking out.

I agree.