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Hi McHale, Did you watch how spurs defeated the blazers?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tangwentao, May 7, 2014.

  1. jordnnnn

    jordnnnn Member

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    Just sounds like you are diminishing our injuries to fit your argument. I completely forgot about Asik and he was probably the biggest loss of anyone for us. Were we luckier than some of the other teams as to who and how long they were out? Sure, but we had serious rotation guys miss a lot of games(9-11 games is a significant chunk)and all teams aren't built the same or in the same stage of their roster construction. A lot of these teams had the backups to withstand injuries. We don't quite have that luxury yet. Our team as we all know is extremely lacking depth for obvious reasons.
     
  2. RedEyesKirby

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    Our team doesn't lack depth. It's exactly because it doesn't lack depth that we can have injuries after injuries but still maintain a good record.

    Bev/Harden injured? Have Lin fill in either of their role and we'll still be decent.
    Howard injured? Asik to fill in and we'll still be decent.
    Parsons injured? Our biggest hole as no one can really fill it in.
    PF can be Dmo/Hamilton/Jones whatever
    And we can rotate in Caanan/AB prior trade if Lin needs to fill Bev/Harden.

    This is why we are extremely under-performing in the Playoffs. We technically have a team that can produce consistently in the whole 4 quarters if used properly. A team made of Harden/Howard/Parson is a top-high-mid seeded team in the west. A team made with Lin and Asik + fillers can be at least 8th seed in the east. Specially if one of Harden/Parsons are with the rotation of Lin + Asik.

    So... I'm just venting again >_>... Apologize if I completely went off topic. But just wanted to address that we don't lack depth.
     
  3. jordnnnn

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    We have enough depth for a playoff rotation when everyone is healthy, but I wouldn't consider what we have as good regular season depth, especially when injuries happen.

    We essentially have no starting level point guards to begin with. So when one is hurt we are taking a big step down. Jones emerged pretty nicely, but I would liken our PF position to our PG position, 2 good backups in Dmo and Jones and since we have no better options one is forced into being a starter. As far as our centers go, once you lose Asik or Howard our 3rd big is basically non existent and hurt us pretty bad this year, especially when we rely on nearly all of our defense on our center rotation.

    As you mentioned our SG/SF rotation is in a world of hurt when either Harden or Parsons goes down, less so for Harden but cringe worthy when Parsons is out.
     
  4. KlutchQT

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    !!!

    We have bodies, yes. But that's about it.
     
  5. ginia1110

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    Rockets is such a promising team and its such a waste to see them digress. And 2014-2015 will basically set the tone of this organization's future.

    With the trades, drafts and everything, and keeping Mchale who clearly belongs in D-league for coaches if there ever is such a place :rolleyes:

    And to think that this team has a bunch of guys in their prime years too, no one's above 35 here right? And to relegate most of them to bench warming? From the top 10 teams in the NBA, I think this team has the weirdest player rotation EVER, with awful relegation of task to ability, only a few shines while others get shelf. I mean, its just glaringly obvious. :rolleyes:

    ALL these years that they could have hone their talent, but the system just lets them rot there, they can't turn back time, and its such a waste.

    One can only practice so much drills, but where skills really develops is through playing in the court the right way with real opponents breathing down your neck.

    Clearly not all of them is on superstar level, but that's really where the skill of a coach comes in. If a player improves his skill then more than half of that credit fairly goes to the coach, and if one goes downhill, then clearly, both the player and coach didn't do well.

    But, if a team who individually doesn't really suck as much but does cumulatively, like Rockets did during playoffs time, isn't it logical to presume that something is wrong with the quality of leadership (a responsibility that lies on the coach)?

    A coach clearly has the advantage in terms of experiences in life and basketball and that's why they're so important. They're also needed when younger players are bound to make mistakes. Even a team who is so well-trained is still prone to mistakes and relaxing during scoring big leads, and that's why the coach is always there to remind players what needs to be done, and if they're down, then he is there to formulate a way to get them out of trouble. That's not over-reliance at all, but that's a sign that a coach is in tune with what his players needs even before they can even think what that need is.

    Mchale's periodic throwing of players under the bus routine is also disheartening. I'm flabbergasted most of the time. I wish Pop could slap him with a few basic Coaching 101.

    I just don't see him being capable of taking our players to the next level, honestly. And for us fans who might not be on their payroll, has no business interest whatsoever with how they play, at least followed them and to a certain extent, have analyze their skill sets and game as a team.

    So at least, won't there be a bit of truth in our observations? :confused:

    Although it'd be counterproductive to be so pessimistic all the time, so I want to believe they'll be better next year. Who knows? Rocket's pathetic lost this year might become the catalyst where changes will start?

    (I hope so)
     
  6. cheke64

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    ^ well look at this fancy bleacher report writer. Are you a girl doe?
     
  7. Allegro

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    Well now, I didn't mention Lin, did I? ;)

    But now that you have, you have to admit that a young Tony Parker, forced to play off the ball, would have struggled just as badly as Lin has the last two years. And the POOs would have hated Tony just as loudly as the LOHs are hating Jeremy. Frankly, the atmosphere created by the LOHs, especially after Game 4, feels like a traditional Southern lynch mob.

    And I'm not sure that Lin is worse than Parker. On current performance, yes. But not inherently. I've never seen Parkersanity.
     
  8. jordnnnn

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    One of the more ridiculous posts I have read in a long while around here. I will just leave it at that.

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  9. langal

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    Parker's been playing at Linsanity levels for several years.
     
  10. Allegro

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    One of the most worthless posts I have read in a long while.
     
  11. Lihao

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    i'm a big Lin fan, but you gotta be kidding me if you really think Lin is on Parker level....
    but the way a young Parker won't struggled playing off the ball , in fact he would more likely force Harden to play off the bench if they can't mesh
     
  12. jordnnnn

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    Whatever you have to tell yourself buddy.

    Looks like I'm not the only one to think your post was pretty damn ridiculous.

     
  13. Allegro

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    Really? Parker has taken a team of scrubs (plus Tyson Chandler) and won seven games in a row while scoring 24 points and dishing out 9 assists per game? Can you point out where Tony has done anything close to that? Has Tony ever played on a team of scrubs?

    I doubt Lin would have been able to sustain Linsanity, but if he were playing with Duncan and Ginobili, and were coached by Popovich, he would likely have done at least as well as Parker.
     
  14. Allegro

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    Read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote.
     
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    allegro has to be a troll. Finals mvp and eva longoria with make up >>>> any type of whoever-sanity
     
  16. Allegro

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    Another worthless post.

    The one guy who agreed with you misread my post. You have probably made the same blunder.
     
  17. aurocketfan

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    Wait, i thought this thread was about Mcfail. How come it becomes another Lin thread.
     
  18. jordnnnn

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    Nah I got it.

    "Lin haters" caused all the problems around here. In your mind they are basically just a bunch of racist southerners.

    Refusal to acknowledge that THE biggest reason for the "Lin hate" is a natural pushback to the giant influx of posters similar to yourself who put none of Lins shortcomings on Lin himself. Always some other factor.

    If only his situation were like TPs, Lin would be at or above the level of Parker. Or the flip side of the argument basically saying if Lin can't excel off the ball like he's asked to do here than no one, not even Parker, could.

    I don't visit the spurs message board, but something tells me there wasn't a hoard of Parker only fans that flooded their site b****ing about the injustices that Tony faced his first couple years with mean old Pop yelling at him all the time that was making him not play as well.

    Then your claim that because Parker hasn't had a Linsanity type 2 week run is proof enough for you to think Lin isn't worse than Parker.
     
  19. JLFan

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    Angry Lin fans....
    Back to McHale, I hope an alligator eats him so he doesnt come back next season.
     
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    Or Pop could have buried Lin so far on the bench that he would never see the light of day. That statement is a true as your Lin would have done at least as well as Parker comment. Both are pure speculation. For all we know, if the Rockets didn't sign Lin, he would still be with NY on a much much cheaper deal. And would have been cut after screwing up for 2 years. See what happens when we play the what if game?

    For the record, I thought Lin played as well as can be reasonably expected in the playoffs barring the huge turn over in game 4, and when most people bash him, they conveniently forget about his huge play in game 3. But it is what it is, people get emotional after close losses.
     

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