Michael Jordan admits to being racist as a teenager

Precisely. Hatred or intolerance of any kind is unacceptable. What happened in the past should never be ignored, but it should not be used to justify the perpetuation of bigotry.

 

Bulls**t.

You could just as easily say that all primitive tribal behavior is "natural human reaction/behavior." Doesn't make it okay on either side.

Yeah, he clearly had legitimate beefs with some white people. The KKK are all f***ing racist bastards. People who run around calling black people n*****s are f***ing racist bastards too. But he should've hated those people, not all white people. Just as a white girl getting her car stolen by a black guy, and then getting mugged by a different black guy the same week, would not and should not suddenly give her carte blanche to hate all black people.

 

Actually, a black man who still resents and stereotypes whites is too isolated and insecure to appreciate, understand or fully capitalize on opportunities in a Western society. He therefore makes himself less productive and more of a burden while both providing a poor example for younger blacks and validating whites' bias against them. He also has a larger sample-size to observe than whites, so his racism has an intrinsically less rational basis.

 

right. But just as the correlations might be pure happenstance and coincidence one *might* be able to see where she might be racist as a result.

Doesn't make it right or a good reason, but certainly it would not be because she thinks she is superior or because of previous atrocities.

If you go to a restaurant and it has a fly in your soup you might be inclined to think that restaurant is dirty or has flies. Maybe that was a bad day for that restaurant. It doesn't give you carte blanche to think all 500 of that same restaurant have flies. But you can see where one might think like that.

 

What crime did Paula Dean commit?

I honestly think that she's been "punished" too much. Bigtexxx has a point actually, a weak one, but it is a point.

If we can forgive one person for coming clean about being a racist in the past, why can't we forgive another?

Does MJ being a teenager make a difference. Yeah, it does, which is why the point is weakened. But it's still a legit question.

 

She was sued for allegedly committing a crime which she apparently settled. Any suits brought against teenage MJ?

 

I agree with the premise that racism is wrong even when it is black versus white but I find your counter argument rather weak.

I mean how many previous atrocities have black men committed against whites? Has there been systematic oppression, and belittling of whites by blacks that would lead to that as a major cause of racism by whites? Was Donald Sterling as a youth humiliated by blacks and institutionally discriminated against?

It's true we don't know for sure why people think the way they do but I doubt that most racists whites could point to some sort of historical justification of subjugation at the hands of blacks to justify their views while blacks certainly can.

Except you are saying that you felt superior to them. Why would you call them "lame" repeatedly if you didn't feel you were better than them?

 

so you mean you are more superior?

people commit atrocities against other people. It doesn't need to be 200 years ago. There is slavery to this day in africa. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_contemporary_Africa

If an atrocity is committed against you today by a certain race there is a possibility (maybe a misguided one) to think racist against that race. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with superior or atrocities in 1860. come on.

His argument is that white man thinks he is superior and would be the only reason. That appears to be your argument too which is so absolute that it is way too catch all for reasons *why* folks are racist. Some people are racist (white included) because of whatever reason including atrocities done to them in their lifetime. To say one race is racist for one reason and another for another reason is simply dumb.

When did I say I was superior to them? Why do you choose to look at things in a cesar milan (dominant/submissive- superior/ not superior) mindset? seems extremely weird to say that someone doesn't like something then derive from that 'they think they are superior' You are reading into something with your own hangups and insecurities.

I could sit here and think like you - that I think I am superior to you when really it's because you have a small penis. I am joking but I do think you are approaching it from a very weird place that honestly I don't think like that. I call it small penis syndrome when it's not physically that.. it's that napoleon/ compensation complex. Obsessive dominant/submissive mentality you typically see in more 3rd world cultures. Ones where they may live in a shi**thole country, but compensate through walking around thinking they are superior. What a joke.

I can choose to not like something and not think I am superior. Maybe I just don't like the way they talk in boston, or that they won't shut up about tom brady. I can respect them for having tom brady or being a poser but that doesn't mean I think I am superior. good for them I say. You say potato I say potaaato.

I lived in europe for a while and one of the things I was taught from the beginning is that some things are just different. Sometimes the way they do things in europe may or may not be better. I was told that 'just because it is different or I think it is stupid .. doesn't mean that it is stupid... it's just different.'

That's okay and drowning in a glass of water of who/what is superior means you have already lost the game. Who the f cares? There will always be someone with a bigger boat or wife with bigger t***. Good for them I say.

When you start to think like they do in 3rd world about superior this or that.. you are playing into a dumb pissing contest and the only the one that is thinking that. Stuck in that. I don't feel superior that you think in such absolutes or about superior/inferior.. at that point feel sorry for you. Feeling sorry for someone isn't superior or inferior.. it's pity. Pity isn't superior or inferior.. it's concern. Concern isn't superior or inferior.. it's love. trying loving not grading who what higher or lower.

Just curious but you were raised in the usa? your mentality tells me otherwise.

 

The judge dismissed the suit as there was no valid discrimination claim. The suit was brought by a white woman. There was no settlement either. No crime was committed or shown to be committed. The only thing was the deposition where they had her using a racial epitaph.

In fact, the woman who sued the original suit asked for a million bucks saying that the bad publicity would do more damage. They responded by telling her they wouldn't give her one red cent.

 

Lately I've been finding myself wanting to post in here, but I always stop mid thought and just hold the backspace key.

 

That sounds like 90% of my time spent in this sub-forum. :grin:

 

Oh there was definitely a settlement. The judge dismissed the suit because both parties agreed to drop the suit just magically one day just all of a sudden. Money tends to change people's minds.