They also picked up carr's option when brees was a free agent. It's the texans. Bad moves don't shock me anymore.
Exactly. Besides, it's all a popularity contest. If Manziel had gone to a non-BCS school, you wouldn't even know his name.
Well, you might. He'd probably be a Case Keenum or a Jimmy G if he went to a less prestigious school. There is no denying that he was a talented college QB, but that's a whole different ballgame. The BS that he got away with in college, he couldn't get away with in the pro's.
If Peyton had allowed the Texans to offer him a contract, where does the money come from? The Texans were up against the cap, where would they have gotten the money from? How many guys would they have had to let go or fail to re-sign in order to give Manning his 20 mil?
The details are that it simply wouldn't have worked out unless you were planning on letting all of your FA's walk which would mean no Foster, no Meyers, probably no Cushing the next year....I don't have the full list and I don't care enough to look it up because it's a ridiculous exercise.
I'm starting to think that despite O'Brien saying he's had QBs of every size, that the reports of him preferring QBs with prototypical size are accurate and that's why they reportedly liked Bortles but not Manziel or Bridgewater. With that in mind, you probably won't see them draft Carr (same height/weight as Bridgewater) or Murray and maybe not even Garoppolo or McCarron. The remaining QB's with prototypical size are Mettenberger, Savage, and Thomas.
Well there has been a lot of chatter about Savage and Thomas....not that either of them really impress me.
I've done the cap math years ago because when people used this argument, I smelled BS. FWIW, the math comes out to this. Peyton got ~$20mil from the Broncos with no guarantees beyond year 1. He reworked his contract in year 2 so the Broncos could free up more money but in return made his contract guaranteed for several more years. He actually would cost the Broncos similar money as the Texans did in the latter part of Schaub's contract. Texans cap hit that year. Schaub $11mil(new contract extension) Foster $9mil(new contract extension) Cutting Daniels would've netted the Texans about $4mil in year 1, $6mil in subsequent years. Replace Schaub(trade away) with a 3rd round pick in a Alex Smith type trade Replace $9mil Foster with $1mil Foster. Replace Daniels with some mediocre FA TE. Replace Schaub with Peyton Manning. Nothing else needed to be changed. The Texans spent Peyton money on Schaub and Foster essentially.
So cut OD, let Foster walk, and find someone to take on Schaub so that you can take a chance that Peyton Manning returns to form after multiple surgeries? And that's IF he happened to pick your team? Yeah, let's kill them for that one.
This is what I meant by detailed Bobby. And it sounds like they would have lost Daniels and maybe taken a chance on losing Foster after his contract ended. Of course, since he has been injury prone that money looks potentially dead now, and we would have always had Ben Tate as his replacement anyways. Schaub leaving wouldn't have mattered with Peyton here and we ended up cutting him anyways. That hardly sounds like your definition of "gutted". Yet another opportunity wasted by this stupid organization.
I'm only calling your BS on the whole "would've gutted the team" angle on the Peyton Manning FA. Of course, if you believe that Foster, Schaub(already cut), and Daniels(already cut) is "gutting the team", then I believe you are just plain wrong. Not a difference in opinion. I think you're just flat out wrong.
Yeah it's never there for Houston guess why we are one of four nfl cities to never make a super bowl. Hate to pull that out right now but our priorities as a organization always seem to be in the wrong order. Warren Moon is the only real good qb we ever had and when we had him we had other issues ironically.
Or they didn't feel he was worth trading up compared to other quarterback options. It's not like the Seahawks just took the Vikings offer and ran with it. They absolutely called the Texans and said "Hey, Vikings offered a 2nd and 4th for Bridgewater. Will you match that?" We have better picks in the 2nd and 4th. The Texans said no. Lots of teams had Bridgewater below Carr on their boards. From all indications over the past months the Texans weren't very high on TB at all.
All you drama queens crack me up. I'm glad we have so many experts in this board that know exactly who is gonna be a stud and what all teams are thinking at all times.
