Or he will be overhyped by many and end up being a bust. Lol Larry Bird huh wow you are on one tonight pimpn. Can you not show a player on your favorite team some love as well. Oh my bad your crucial criticism of Jones play won't allow you too.
Why the hell would I ever comply with your request to rank a random group of players? I will say this. Only 2 of these players started over 70 games this season, and only 3 started over 40. And only 5 of them started for a Playoff team. D-Mo (3), Ed Davis (4), Perry Jones (7), 2Pat(7), and Terrence Jones (71). Im not a huge Terrence Jones fan, and would love for the Rockets to significantly upgrade the PF position, but I do have a knack for calling out BS. I don't know what this guy did to you, whatever bet you lost, or if he hit on your girl at a club or something, but this ridiculous campaign you have just needs to stop. Regain your composure and please stop the BS. There is no need for Lin Hating, Casspi hating, and even Jones hating.
McDermott looks like a nice prospect. Maybe a cross between Mike Dunleavey and a taller Carlos Delfino, or maybe (if the team that drafts him is lucky) he becomes a poor mans Kevin Love... but lets be honest.... the guy is a prospect who has yet to even go to the draft combine. Its amazing how much of a know-it-all some folks can be where they have to choose battles they know people will not be able to prove right or wrong so they can always continue to modulate their arguments. Morey maybe would trade Jones for the #10 to the #15 draft pick in this years draft, but it would be for a much better reason than because he simply projects that McDermott will be a better PF than Terrence Jones is in 3 years. (like how he used Lamb and the Toronto pick to get Harden. Morey never thought Lamb would be an upgrade to Kevin Martin anytime soon in his career or a young big man like Steven Adams would even outproduce Sam Dalembert or Chuck Hayes. He took those guys and the picks to be means to an end). The Rockets don't have 2 years much less 3 or 4 to let a rookie develop to be a key part of their rotation. Jones might not be ready yet to be the best PF for the job, but he's shown to be a hell of a lot closer than any rookie in this draft has. Making this argument right now is asinine and insults our intelligence.
You can't discuss Jones without making it personal. It's always stupid comments like "I don't know what this guy did to you" (nothing) that lets me know you're the one that really wants to argue. Just stop it. I gave you a list of players all young 4/5s that have come into the league in the last 3 seasons right along with Jones. I didn't even name the better ones, the higher drafted ones. And all you got is starts???? You can't rank them because you know they're all about the same and any attempt to rank them would be preposterous. And that is my point. Terrence Jones is a JAP. He's just another player. He's in the NBA. So obviously he's got talent. But in the NBA at this stage of his career he's a JAP, just another player.
I compared what his defense is going to look like at the NBA level to Larry Bird's defense. He will never be a good individual defender. Larry Bird was never a good individual defender. Want another name? Try Mark Aguirre. Mark Aguirre was never a good individual defender. Rather lacking. But Mark Aguirre had enough bball iq to steer his man into help defense. He had enough moxy to take away a players' strong hand and make him go to his weak hand. Same thing with Bird. This is what is going to happen with McDermott. He'll be just fine in a team defensive concept. He'll occasionally need help. (Almost everybody does against certain matchups.) But offensively he's gonna flat light up people and be a mismatch either big or small against practically everybody that attempts to defend him. Especially if he is paired with a couple really good/great players and is the 3rd option.
I think you got that the other way around. YOU are the one who can't discuss Terrence Jones without being a complete pretentious you know what. I could care less about Jones. He is just another player, but he's not deserving of the dump you take on his name and the campaign you run to turn every Rockets fan against him. The guy played his #$ off for the Rockets this year, showed major improvement, is going to get way better, and has nothing to be ashamed of. Lin has plenty of fans to go after the people who hate him, but if he didn't Id stick up for the BS people say about how horrible he is. McHale is a bottom 8 coach in the NBA, but when people make up BS about him I have to call it out as well. I'm not ranking the players or throwing out BS stats about these players you listed because there is no point in getting at it with you. Its a waste of internet space trying to have a simple basketball discussion with someone who will pull out all the stops just so he doesn't ever have to agree with anyone so he can claim he is the king of the internet in his sad little world.
I'll bite It's just an opinion. There are a lot of guys left off of this list that can be had for less money than some of these that I think are better than these. There are some PF/C in the development league that I like better than some of these. I've got Trob last because I think he'll be a total bust. Gorgui Dieng Kelly Olynk Jared Sullinger Terrence Jones Kenneth Faried John Henson Markieff Morris Marcus Morris Andrew Nicholson Draymond Green Tyler Zeller Donatas Motiejunas Arnett Moultrie Patrick Patterson Darrell Arthur Ed Davis Perry Jones Thomas Robinson
rep'd you for attempting this. However....putting Jones ahead of Faried, John Henson, Markieff Morris, Arthur, Green, and Davis????? Not to mention DMo. And Olynk over Sullinger? The point here is Jones is a very pedestrian player. At least you had the cajones to try it and endure the criticism. Most other posters know it's a trap and won't attempt it. Because they know Jones is just another player. But they want to "imagine" that he could somehow "develop" into this stud that would be substantially better than this abbreviated list of young bigs. And I do agree there are a lot of names not on this list whom are better players that you could have for a minimum salary contract.
Holic has been fighting that losing battle since the beginning of the season. Pimp Jones has proven dude wrong all year but he is too hot headed to admit that lol. He keeps saying he can't shoot but forgets Parsons nor Lowery could shoot either. All this young 22 year man has to do is put in countless ours in the gym working on his jumper. Jones averaged what around 11 -13 points this season and 7 boards. Man for a rookie ( he played 80% of his actual rookie season in the D-league) is pretty remarkable. Dobro indeed though ole holic goes all ham on you when you mentioned Otis Thorpe but have the nerve to say this cat coming out of college has Larry Bird like attributes. Bwhahaha too funny. Holic let the young man touch the NBA court first pimpn before hyping him up like this.
Terrence Jones got dominated like a school boy against Portland and lost his starting spot it got so bad. Keep living in dream land bro.
This is what dobro was eluding to, this fan puts his list together and you refutes the **** out of it.
half of those players have more experience. nearly all of those players have deficiencies as well. they bring some things that jones doesn't have, while jones can bring somethings they don't have. a lot of them also don't have an outside shot either. all these guys need more time to develop. only 4 who has seemed to take off right off the bat is anthony davis. bigs just need more time to develop in this league. at this point, you focus on developing jones until you can put him in a package for high impact player. millsap isn't enough to justify it. you'd feel like you could get more. you give a dollar (asik+jones) for 85 cents.
its all about match ups. yeah tjones looked bad against portland. he also looks bad vs memphis. he's too small and not seasoned enough to know how to guard true big men. Just like how you wouldn't want Asik and Howard playing together when you're playing miami. In the right match up he's pretty good. im not saying he's going to be a superstar but i'd take him over a lot of players on that list.
I can name a lot of players who got dominated dating back to the early 90's pimpn. That **** happens all the time. I bet you I can dominate you on a pick up game to lol. And since you are an old school cat you should know veteran superstars damn near always dominates rookies. Welcome to be the big leagues youngster. For someone who claims they don't hate Jones, always spewing negative **** whenever another person says something positive about him. And he didn't lose his job either, it was a smart coaching decision to see if Asik could slow that beast down. What happened in game six sir, LMA adjusted and went crazy on Asik and whoever was guarding him.
Davis is better but tell me why Jones has his way against him. Lol Like you said all we have to do is keep developing Jones. Who knows he might just surprise the almighty basketball king basketballholic.
Man you crazy why do you think Portland was still in the game. LMA was having his way in the 1st half and some of the 3rd quarter. He cold down after that but he was the main reason why they were in the game.
