The pick is Mack all the way. He's a Texans kind of guy, he's at a position of need. He isn't an unmotivated knucklehead like Clowney may be. It's also the reason why the Texans know who'd they would pick at 1.1 but are still willing to trade down. Despite what Bobby says, he isn't an open-field only pass rusher. He put up more bench reps than Clowney. He's just as fast. Jumps higher. Weighs only a few pounds less, but is shorter. He actually did play many positions at Buffalo, both on the line and standing up. He dominated one on one against a second or third round offensive line prospect (Jack Mewhort). Yeah, he wasn't great against Baylor, but their entire game plan on offense was pretty much based around minimizing his impact. If you want to argue that's what teams did for Clowney, that's what Baylor did for Mack. It's very short sighted for anyone to come on here and claim that Mack is done when you get your hands on him. His film proves otherwise. If you want to say that about Mack, you gotta say that about Clowney.
Same feeling here- No Way you take him at #1,, You have to take the consensus Pick which is Clowney. now if you trade to 5 or 6 and he still there than you take him..
And drafting Clowney isn't risky...??? That's just as big of a risk than drafting Sammy or one of the quarterbacks. Clowney has more question marks than the Riddler. That dude has a bad work ethic to go along with a bad foot and he can't bend the corners. I also said Robinson but I guess you think that's r****ded too. Glad you brought up Keenan. Because what he did as a #1 receiver having to face double teams was truly amazing. Rivers was garbage after V-Jax left. But you guys keep blaming the quarterback. Just imagine what Keenan would have done playing opposite of Dre without having to face double teams like Nuk had the luxury of. Nuk was a reach pick. Watkins isn't guaranteed but you won't find a reputable scout out there with any doubts about him. Greg Cosell said he would take Watkins #1 but I guess you think he's r****ded too... Lol... I understand it's Clowney or bust with you guys so I understand
I agree completely. I think that's why we are seemingly so desperate to trade down. Wasn't trying to advocate for him as the pick. I'm just trying to point out that I think he is the guy.
This is the team that went Mario Williams at the last minute in 2006, when all we heard before that was Vince Young, Reggie Bush, Vince Young, Reggie Bush... etc.
true- im just assuming they would use the logic here, i dont think there was a clowney type player in that draft.. Im not saying clowney is the next Julius peppers, but he is being considered as a cant miss prospect
Mario was better than Clowney in college. He was just overshadowed by VY and Bush because of the monumental national championship game.
never heard the media call Mario a once in 10 year prospect.. Thats what they call clowney.. Not coming from me- coming from supposly experts who do this for a living
A lot of people have Mack rated as the 2nd best player in the draft. It's absolutely not out of the question that he could be taken first. If that's who the Texans want, if they like him more than Clowney, they HAVE to take him #1. They could try to trade down and still get him, but considering potential draft partners and the general consensus of how the first few picks are likely to play out, I'd say that there's at least a 90% chance he'd be gone by the time the Texans were on the clock.
They aren't taking him(Mack) first. McNair already called Clowney the BPA. He would look stupid if they just ended up taking Mack first and not getting him via trade back.
Well that's a bold theory, I hope you defend it well. In what way is he a "Texans kind of guy"? BOB has said he plans to use a multiple defense with guys moving all around the line.....Mack can't do that. I like how you drop the slander then say "may be", Glenn Beck would be proud of you for that Or it could be that they know they are taking the obvious best pick in the draft in Clowney but are still willing for someone to buy it with an over the top offer. He got a higher percentage of his sacks while unblocked than any other top defensive prospect in the draft against by far the weakest competition....However your argument of "nuh uh" is compelling. Awesome, and that's why he's considered a top 5 pick. Being almost as quick as Clowney is one hell of an accomplishment, even if you are considerably smaller. Clowney played RB in high school, but I don't see how that's relevant. Mack isn't someone who could play several positions in the NFL any more than Clowney could be a RB. Try watching again, he spent most of the game against freshman Taylor Decker rather than against Mewhort. If by "their entire game plan on offense was pretty much based around minimizing his impact" you mean "they didn't leave him unblocked and one time they chipped him with a RB then sure, but that's no where near what offenses did to prepare for Clowney. I'm not sure what film you are watching, but that's exactly what happened almost every down against Baylor, maybe you are only paying attention to games where he went up against some random lineman from Johnny Buckwheat Jr College, but if he's against a halfway competent O linemen and they get their hands on him, he's done. No, that's not how that works. Saying that would be like someone saying "if someone says Manziel is short, they have to say that Logan Thomas is short too"
Reggie and VY had historic careers. It's hard to get attention with that. Do you really remember what people said about Mario? I'm sure it was good. The bigger noise was that those other guys were hall of fame players. If you are saying that "experts" don't know what they are talking about then I agree. No one knows anything about the draft. No one can predict what is going to happen. All I know is that Mario was unequivocally better in college than Clowney.
Coming from experts who work for a 4 letter network whose job it is to generate stories and attention. I sometimes wonder what the hype on Clowney would be if he hadn't had that highlight hit against Michigan in the Outback Bowl last year. That one play generated tons of attention and everything snowballed from there. He'd certainly be thought of as a top prospect, maybe even still the consensus #1, but I don't think you'd be getting the "once in a generation" prospect label (never mind that we just had a "once in a generation" QB drafted 2 years ago) if it weren't for that highlight.
I felt the same as you until I realized he was the number one prospect in HS. That actual play was incredible. Not many guys could do it. Ran an unofficial 4.4 at 265 pounds, and then I watched his tape. He destroyed his one on one's. Hectic.
The guy is a monster/beast.. Him and JJ WaTT would be scary.. The Texans will take him if they stay at 1..
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