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Not giving up on Terrence Jones

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Texanasiafan, May 6, 2014.

  1. jump shooter

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    I also kinda saw Asik and Howard look helpless against Aldridge as well. LOL
     
  2. dobro1229

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    r****ded Eh... Boy you really know how to make friends around here.

    If you didn't happen to notice, LMA drops over 80 points in the first 2 games. Terrence Jones was a starter for more than 70 games this year and barely got PT. How in the world would anyone expect McHale of all coaches to play D-Mo when he's going against the likes of the best PF in the league at the time when he's playing like that?

    The only time D-Mo really didn't get minutes was the first couple months of the season, and in the 6 playoff games. Compared to what he played in his rookie year, D-Mo is tracking to have a really big role in year 3 with a ton of minutes to grab during the regular season.

    D-Mo WILL get minutes next year if he's here, and that's assuming Asik is also still here. If he gets moved that opens up even more time for D-Mo. However his role offensively is yet to be determined based on how McHale wants to play him.

    Yes I do think that D-Mo getting touches in the paint matters to him. I've been a huge D-Mo fan since the Nike Hoops Summit years ago when the guy was a twig. Dont come talk to me about what I do or dont know about D-Mo, or if you are going to disagree, do it with a little bit of courtesy and politeness.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    I don't think we should give up on TJ, but we shouldn't foolishly throw him in situations where he is going to fail. He's an undersized PF and he is decent enough when he's going against other undersized PF's but he shouldn't be played against big men, he just can't hang. He had no business on the court during the playoff series, but we stuck with him anyway and it played a big part in why we are sitting at home right now. If we lose DMo due to the foolish decision to not give him playing time in matchups where he should be on the court, then I think the #1 priority has to be finding a PF who won't be completely embarrassed by the larger PF's in the league.
     
  4. Bo6

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    honestly, I believe DMO is better and will be better next season.
     
  5. Texanasiafan

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    Completely disagreed on above.

    The problem with TJ is : the Rockets coaching staff is probably coaching for their jobs the past season and did not give TJ enough chances to be embarrassed during the regular season. He should be thrown into the fire more often and D-mo on the other hand, should play less.

    D-Mo had much more chances than TJ in the last 2 years, he is just not as good as TJ. I am OK with the Rockets to give up on D-Mo for nothing, just like the Rockets gave up on T-rob for nothing.

    But TJ is a different story, if the Rockets will consider to trade him away, we better make sure we are getting back a player really, really good.
     
  6. Nook

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    TJones will look good next year...... on another team.... not likely he will be back... maybe he and DMO can split cab fare on the way to the airport.
     
  7. LabMouse

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    TJ has no a desire to play defense, which is a big problem for him although he is a very good on the offensive end. I have no a problem to give up him on a trade.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Wow, IMO that's exactly backwards. DMo not playing in the series hurt them because his post D is WAY better than Jones' and you can actually put him on a center like Lopez if you had to. Jones brings athleticism and not much more and when he's faced with the larger PF's in the league, he's completely worthless. Honestly a true platoon between Jones and DMo would be best but I think the situation has been mismanaged so badly that I don't know if it's going to work out.
     
  9. zipcrash

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    i think some of his problems are due to being rushed into the line up after twin tower didn't work earlier in the season.

    for some reason, he has an odd ability to make plays on both sides of the court. im not sure you can let someone like that go too quickly. needs to work on his overall game though.
     
  10. i meow a lot

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    +1.

    Heat all have vets on the team, not players who are developing. A championship team needs to be ready now. TJ is more of a roleplayer atm, preferably off the bench.

    Other teams who have won also have Vets on the team. That's what we need a team that knows what to do and does it. Outside of Dwight and Harden, most players are still discovering what they can or cannot do as in still reaching for their full potential. They need to be championship ready. I feel like having a bunch of vets can only help. Players who know their role and stick to it.

    The rockets still lack a true offensive/defensive identity.
     
  11. Rip Van Rocket

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    Is TJones really so undersized that we have to make a change? He is definitely smaller than some, but TJones is as tall or taller than Paul Millsap, Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, and many other quality PF's. TJones has a standing reach of 8'11'' and weighs in at 250+, he's not really all that tiny. TJones had trouble against Aldridge, but Aldridge is a very tough cover for anyone.

    TJones needs to improve his game in a couple of areas, but his size should not really hold him back very much in my opinion. He has enough size to be a very good PF in this league.
     
  12. zipcrash

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    spurs have vets and develop talent
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    He plays smaller than he is, any large PF can absolutely abuse him on both sides of the court. He has no business playing against the larger PF's in the league.
     
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    Can't take anyone that types "could of" seriously.

    Go read a book and work on your English.
     
  15. Normalus

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    I would trade TJ for 1st rounder in a blink of an eye
     
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    Trade Bait. Teams will take him in a heart beat. He gets tunnel vision and ignores the guards after he gets a rebound while going on a 1 man fast break. Typical kid issues. His weakness is his defense . He never learned to " get low" and plant himself so he cant be backed down. Chuck Hayes was a beast with this. Chuck used to give LMA hell with his post defense
     
  17. nobie

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    Dmo is better defender. Dmo knows, Tjones knows it, whole god damn team knows it, every knows it (expet Mchale obviously), yet TJones continued to get destroyed by LMA and Dmo sat on the bench.
     
  18. dobro1229

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    Yes. D-Mo is a better defender. Did I say he wasn't???? Geez folks are touchy today.

    No Jones did not "continually" get destroyed by LMA because he only saw him in game 1. Jones was on LMA for about half of the first game, and then very sporadically the rest of the series. There was an OBVIOUS attempt by McHale to NEVER HAVE ANYONE OTHER THAN ASIK & HOWARD on LMA at ALL TIMES. I thought that was incredibly obvious but apparently some folks didn't really watch the series that close.

    Terrence Jones nor D-Mo should be given ANY valid opinion on their future in the NBA based on the 6 games played in the playoffs because they simply weren't a factor given the coaches choice. Blame the coaches for not trusting both players that much, but it doesn't say anything about those two young bigs.

    Any relevant conversation about Jones & D-Mo's future should be from the results of the regular season. There is no point in discussing their roles in the playoffs cause they didn't have any by the coaches choice other than game 1 with Jones where he was put in a position to fail to begin with when McHale made him guard LMA instead of Dwight.
     
  19. Texanswin2013

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    Terrence Jones is the only Rockets young player with all-star potential. Morey would literally have to be stupid to trade a high potential rookie, to "win now" on a team that's really young in the first place.

    Jones will be better than whatever PF people have in mind in two years. Except maybe Kevin Love.
     
  20. vator

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    Not that PER means everything because it doesn't, but he had the 3rd highest on the team after Harden and Howard and it wasn't even close. I know he doesn't look so great in some of the other advanced statistics, but he really shines in this one.

    Harden - 23.5
    Howard - 21.3
    Jones - 19.1
    Parsons - 15.9
    Lin - 14.3
    Asik - 14.0
    Beverley - 12.4
    D. Mo - 10.7

    Point is, I think he does a lot of good things and will only get better. There are a lot of positives to work with here. He took a big step this year and could potentially take another with another good offseason of work to refine some of his weak areas.
     

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