The Texans #1 Draft Pick Thread (3.0)

Actually it would take plenty of "balls" for the Texans to pass up on Clowney and Johnny if those two guys are the consensus picks by the fans and media. It takes no "balls" to draft Clowney when there are fans making ridiculous over the top statements by comparing him to L.T. and believing the Texans will have a dominant defense by joining Watt and Clowney.

Atlanta (or Buffalo) could trade with a team in front of them and then swap picks with Houston so the Texans wouldn't have to necessarily wait until the 6th pick.

But if the Texans aren't in love with Clowney, Johnny, etc to draft them #1 overall they should just auction the pick off to the highest bidder and not target a specific player in a trade down when we could use any of them.

 

You could insert "Tebow & Florida" in this comment in place of "Manziel & A&M" & it would still hold true. I'm pretty sure Gruden was pretty high on Timmy too. We all know how that worked out in the NFL.

Honestly, I don't know about Manziel. I'm not ready to label him a future bust, but I'm not ready to call him the next big thing either. I loved watching him play at A&M, can't argue with his success on that level. But we saw Keenum put up similar stats in Sumlins system at UH. So is he just a product of the system? When I look at manziel, I see something of a mix between VY & Jake Plummer, i dont see a Steve Young type player. That's just my opinion, it could be wrong. But if I'm the Texans & I have the first overall pick, I don't roll the dice on JM. I'd take the BPA & draft Clowney.

 

Sammy Watkins and Greg Robinson can make a strong argument for BPA available. Especially Sammy considering he's the only top prospect with no question marks... No holes in his game. The consensus safest pick. And the Texans already have a 1st round and 2nd round pick at OLB and Dre is in his mid 30's.

The Texans should have made O'Brien bring in a 4-3 defensive coordinator if they knew there was a possibility they would draft Clowney or a 4-3 defensive minded head coach. If they draft Clowney they may have jumped the gun on the coaching hire.

 

I wouldn't be mad if they picked Watkins either...or Robinson. I just don't see that happening. I personally don't see the perceived "holes" in clowneys game either. Which is why I consider him the BPA.

As for fit in Romeos system, I don't see an issue there either. His is more of a hybrid system that switches back & forth from 3-4 to 4-3, depending on d&d, from what I saw in kc anyway. I think clowney could switch from olb to de relatively easily, making his fit ideal. This would allow reed to float between olb & mlb as well, depending on the set. We still need an interior DL, but a quality guy can be found there at the top of the 2nd. Leaving the biggest hole left on the team at qb. I firmly believe that guy can/will be there in rounds 3-4 of this draft, or via trading up back in to the mid-late 2nd rd if you're worried about "your guy" being taken before the 3rd.

I have to think Nuk is Andres replacemnt. He needs some development, no doubt, but he has shown flashes of being special, once he fully grasps his role in a system.

 

From the perspective of the Texans and the #1 overall pick that they spent on him, his career ended the day he signed a humongous free agent contract with another team.

Benefits gained by Buffalo should not add or subtract to the ledger when calculating whether it was a good pick for the Texans.

The fact that the team let him go without even a token effort speaks to the fact that they felt a certain sense of inadequacy.

 

Watkins route running is not the greatest in the world. He will be a stud though.

 

I see Nuk as a solid #2 at best... True #1 receivers are hard to come by and he's not one. O'Brien is an offensive minded coach so why not give him the best offensive weapon in this draft. A true replacement for Dre. Dre, Sammy, Nuk, and Foster can make up for an average quarterback. There's not a defense in this division (maybe even conference) that can match up with that. If they traded down and ended up with Sammy all is not lost.

You're only hoping that Clowney can play standing up and be a hybrid player when his own college coach says he's best with his hand in the dirt. Mack may be a better fit because he could play inside if they needed him to.. Just the same, it may take years trying to build a defense dominant enough to stop Luck (our secondary is trash). We'd probably be better off trying to out score him because Indy's defense isn't great.

I'm just sick of having an offensive minded head coach and spending a majority of the early round picks on defensive players and not having enough offensive weapons on the field to work with. The Texans did that with Kubiak. And they got very lucky they came across Foster.

 

Who was it that declared Gruden this "QB guru"? What QB did he ever develop in Tampa? What talent did he find that no one else could? Chris Simms?

 

haha THANK YOU!!!

it's amazing what a little camera time can do for you.

 

I have the exact same thoughts as you but my opinions of Clowney and Manziel are reversed, I want Clowney but would not mind Manziel one bit because he brings that wow factor that no one else in this draft can.

Bridgewate is okay in the 2nd or late 1st if we move up, Bortles ehgg gross, Mack only if we move back 1.4 -1.6 and getting a 2nd and next years 1st.

 

Yeah. He makes a nice show, but as a coach, he never drafted a good QB. Chris Simms and Bruce Gradkowski were the best. You don't want to completely disregard his opinion, but it's not like he had a history of successfully evaluating college QBs when he was coaching either. I don't put his opinion higher than anybody else's.

Kubiak has the reputation of being a QB guru too. And he also never drafted a good QB, either here or as OC in Denver (where Brian Griese was the best QB pick). And if he tried to give an opinion on this years QB class, I think most here would just laugh and disregard it.

 

Thanks for pointing that out, junior. You are such a clown.

 

I get the comparison with Keenum, but it is very different doing it in CUSA and doing it in the SEC while rolling up 500 yards a game against Alabama.

 

It was really hard for Tebow....

 

Except that Manziel put up more yards than Tebow and could actually pass the football. Manziel put up more yards than Cam Newton, who is beginning to have a nice NFL career.

 

@AnthonyDiMoro More indications popping up that #Texans prefer Khalil Mack over Jadeveon Clowney at number 1. #NFLDraft2014 #SportsRants @SportsRantsNFL

Not sure who this guy is, but looks like word Texans prefer Mack is making it's rounds.

 

Is anybody surprised by this? Haven't we known for a while that we want to trade down and get Mack and a handful of picks?

 

Could Mack really end up being the #1 overall pick. An OLB out of Buffalo...??? Wow.

 

mack > clown3y

it's not even close.

mack & cushing blitzing up the middle will be deadly.

we can do so many more things with mack than clown3y.