Passing on Clowney because he doesn't fit your system is pure stupid. I won't even bother explaining why that's a dumb way to draft. It should be obvious. Keep it simple. Clowney or Manziel, no trading down. If it's Clowney, try to trade back up for a QB, probably Bortles, but it ought to be Manziel. If he flops, no one will blame McNair. Sometimes you have to roll the dice. Sometimes you have to say #### it, let's go for it. But I won't be supremely pissed if it's Clowney. I can live with that selection. What will piss me off, and I think a lot of fans will react the same way, is passing on both of them. I find that to be completely unacceptable. It would be gutless to trade down. Passing on Manziel/Clowney screams No Balls. Manziel or Clowney, decide, draft, develop, dominate, done discussing it.
I used to argue with "special" comments like these, but I'm not going to bother anymore. Instead, I'll just allow the ridiculous comments to pile up just like all of the "JJ Watt is just a pizza boy" comments and laugh about them later.
Nobody ever questioned Watt's work ethic or motor. There has been a lot of questions regarding that with Clowney. Tell me the last player who had those kind of question marks that ended well. It seems that the only one here who is "special" is you. I think you played a few too many downs without a helmet.
For all the negative chatter about Manziel and Clowney, it doesn't change the fact that Clowney won't fall past two or that Manziel won't fall past four. If they are such "risky" picks, why will they both be snatched up by the time Oakland is on the clock with the fifth pick? The reason is because they both have scary frightening potential. Yes, there is risk, but sometimes ya gotta roll the dice. Clowney or Manziel, decide, draft, develop, do it.
Mario had motor concerns coming out of college. People seem to underestimate him, but he's going to end up with over 100 sacks in his career. It's not Bruce Smith or Reggie White totals, but that's a pretty damned good career.
Has this been posted? : Houston Texans owner Bob McNair told reporters that they didn’t know what they wanted to do with their first overall pick in the NFL Draft. McNair also said the Texans would still considering trading down if the option pops up. “Really at this point we don’t know and we really won’t know until right up at the time we have to make a decision because people are talking to us about the possibility of trading down and it’s a question of what people offer, whether their offer is such that it’s worthwhile to trade down,” McNair told Fox 26 in Houston on Friday. “You take a guy like Jadeveon Clowney,” McNair added. “He’s obviously the best player in the draft, but he’s a defensive end. He’s not a quarterback. If he’s a quarterback and the best player it’s easy, but that’s not the case. So can that defensive player have a greater impact on the success of your team than one of these quarterbacks? It’s not a sure thing that he is.” http://fansided.com/2014/05/04/texans-owner-jadeveon-clowney-obviously-best-player-draft/#!IkNsI
I will summarize this for you. Basically, we are taking Clowney number one. If we are given a great package for picks, we will trade you the first pick, as long as the QB we want is still available at your pick . My prediction, Texans keep Clowney as the QB that they want(Manziel) will be gone by the 6th pick. If he is there, we trade with ATL for this year's first, next years, and this and next years second round picks.
I have a bad feeling about Clowney and Manziel ... I want Mack, Barr or Mosley, so I'd rather trade down and have extra draft picks. This draft is soooooooo deep and we need depth at so many positions anyway.
I was not devastated when Mario left. I wonder how much better the Texans defense would have been if Mario would have had the type of motor that Watt has. I expect a player at his level to give it his all on every down. Mario does not give you that...he disappears for long stretches at a time. I fear the same out of Clowney.
We need good players, not ones that are going to play behind our mediocre players(depth). Pass Pass Pass. You take Clowney or Manziel! I will accept a Mack if it comes with picks/etc.
You take Clowney at 1.1, no decision to be made. People who question his motor are just grasping at straws in search of flaws. Truth is: any D-lineman or pass rusher is going to "take plays off" throughout the course of a game. It is physically impossible to go at an o-lineman (or 2) for 30+ plays per game. Even the best pass rushers "take plays off". Lawrence Taylor, who many see as Clowneys upside, took more plays off than a lot of players of his era, yet was still by far the most impactful player on that side of the ball. Those who criticize him for having only 3 sacks last year don't get it either. He was regularly schemed against with 2, even 3 players. If you don't understand what that in itself does for a defense, you just don't know football. The chance to put clowney & watt out there together is special, its really hard to scheme against 2 guys like that, without leaving another player or 2 completely unblocked. If we do end up with clowney, look for mercilus, reed & cush to have monster years. With the way the league works right now, pressuring the qb is a must. We all remember how much better our secondary looked a couple yrs ago when we were able to pressure the qb & in turn how horrid that same secondary looked when we could no longer pressure the qb (turning point was jax game season before last). We would have a D that would allow you to be one of those teams who can win it all with a Dilfer at qb. If BOB is the qb guru everyone claims he is, you can find a qb to mold into that guy in rounds 2-4 this year. Recent history has also shown that quality qbs can be found past the first round (wilson, kaepernick). So take clowney & don't trade him away & grab a project qb in early-mid rounds to develop for a yr or 2...easiest decision ever.
I will remind you of this when it turns out that Gruden, et al all correct on him. Manziel had his doubters when he won the starting job at A&M...he went out there and won the damned Heisman.
It really is funny when someone is called out and then they essentially confirm the accusations with their reply.
Gruden loves every quaterback. Typican Gruden Quote: "This volleyball is a winner, If im starting a football team, i want these cheese and crackers as my starting QB" "Mike, did you ever see the movie 'Cast Away?' In that movie, Tom Hanks' only friend was a ball named Wilson. In this game, Russell Wilson's only friend is a football." Simply put I'm not sure gruden has met a QB he did not like. No QB in this draft is 1.1 material. That is just the truth take your rose colored glasses off. I like bridgewater, but with his slide even if he may be worth a 1st, the draft dictates that he may not be a top 10 pick. So why waste your 1.1 on a QB when you can get that QB with a 1.6 or even later at the start of the second. If the texans keep their 1.1 they will take the BPA, Clowney, and either dangle him to teams or just keep the guy and draft a QB with their second. Hell i can even see them trading into the late 1st if they see a QB they like who slid there.
Charlie Ward also won the Heisman. Is he in the NFL hall of fame yet? lol college ball is not the NFL, son.
