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Was it a Mistake for Beverly to Start at PG?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rev1274, May 3, 2014.

  1. kastuul

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    Some fans still believe the myth of Beverley's defense, like they forgot his game against Reggie Jackson last year.

    Starting Bev. can't win more games and Harden's D get worse.

    It makes harder to trade Lin.
     
  2. jordnnnn

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    Apparently a good number of writers, coaches and players believe in the myth of Bevs defense too.
     
  3. cn0gd

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    bev start->Haren ISO
    funny one can see the latter and b**** about it all season long, yet cant see it's inevitable result of former.
     
  4. Swag

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    i stilll feel likes this team needs a true point guard. someone who can take control of the game and take care of the ball.
     
  5. DOLPHIN2k2

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    Wait, the numbers are clear! No?
     
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    Are you talking about the regular season or the playoffs.

    Beverley wasn't 100% in the playoffs, especially the last two games when he was sick. His defense wasn't as sharp. His shot was totally gone. As problematic as Lin was, Beverley was actually playing worse than Lin.

    In the regular season, Bev was clearly better than Lin most of the times.
     
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  7. Aleron

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    For the last 2 or 3 games, Beverley wasn't healthy enough to pressure the ball early and often and for the most part he wasn't delaying the offense like he usually does, which sort of defeats his purpose, to try and prevent teams having options to the extra passes we so thoroughly suck at defending.

    Lillard really didn't do much at all in the first few games either, but the Lamarcus show was in full flight.
     
  8. knickstorm

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    lol what? He put them in position to win game 1 with what he did late in the game and in OT......game 2 he was useless....made big plays to win game 3....1 bad play in game 4, you wouldnt have won game 5 without him.

    ANd he did more than enough yesterday, some big pts in the 4th and completely taking Lillard out in the 4th until he got benched for the last possession.

    YOu cant even pick 2 games out of that. ANd how can he single-handedly blow game 4 when the game went into OT after his mistake?
     
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    With Bev being sick, yes it was.
     
  10. novaman

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    In hindsight it was a mistake to start Bev this season. With Bev on the floor, the ball goes through Harden. A big part of Harden's game is getting to the line. This wasn't an issue during the regular season because the refs would call the tick tack fouls, but in the playoffs it is a foregone conclusion that the refs will not make those calls. With that part of his game taken away, and facing all those double teams, Harden was not Harden. Having Lin on the floor would have helped Harden's game by taking some of the pressure off of him and helped to create offensive situations that the Rockets could exploit. If they had worked on this from day 1 we could have seen a very different offense.
    The reality is that Lin has been taken out of the offense because the Rockets view him as expendable, want to move him and therefore game planned for an offense that does not include Lin
     
  11. TheLastPope

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    Before all the excuses come out to prop bev up

    2 things bev did good in the playoffs

    Foul out Aldridge

    Great game 3

    Thats it

    Bev game 1-4 (11/1/40 min)

    Lillard game 1-4 (25/8/42 min)

    But that's not a negative to anyone here

    Bev starts because

    Slightly better defense than Lin(above avg. To avg.)

    Better spot up shooter than lin(overall bev.361% to Lin's .358%)

    And the Two most important reasons

    Doesn't turn the ball over

    Great close out guy off defense rotations

    Overall Bev is a solid back up PG, who should playing 20-25 min., but mchale likes to play him 35 min per game

    Bev **** the bed in the playoffs, we need a real starter, bev and Lin both don't cut it

    Stop propping up guys who failed in the playoffs
     
  12. RoxBeliever

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    Nope. It was a mistake to trade AB.

    With all these injuries, we should have at least 4PGs.

    This was not the real Beverley we saw. His injury really slowed him down. Our only chance to advance in the West was to slow down those elite PGs, and he and Lin couldn't.

    Harden going missing is another story in itself.

    The guard play which was our best asset during the regular games let us down at the worst time. We had to insert a rookie to give us some confidence, imagine that.
     
  13. devin23

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    Lillard had 30 points in game one...
     
  14. Aleron

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    Harden scored 27, yet i wouldn't say he did much either.
     
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    except lillard shot over 47% FG and and .429 in 3pt shot unlike harden jacking up shots. so no, bev didn't defend him well.
     
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    He also saved us in our two wins but people conveniently forget that when it suits them.
     
  17. TheLastPope

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    Lillard

    Game 1 (31/5ast)

    Game 2 (18/11ast)

    Game 3 (30/6ast)

    Game 4 (23/5ast)

    Yup Lillard did nothing early

    Lillard avg 20/5.5 in the regular season

    Lillard avg 25 /8 on bev in the playoffs
     
  18. Aleron

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    Lillard was jacking up shots all over the place, they were just going in, that's sort of how basketball works, you can take good shots and miss, and you can take awful shots and have them go in. Harden took basically identical shots in every game, but game 6, they started falling. The problem is people like you will watch him shoot 30% next series on exactly the same shots and go why is he jacking up shots this series.
     
  19. dantian

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    That! Lin has been instructed to be the 4th ballhandler or playmaker behind Harden, Parsons, and Bev all season long! He was not given the role of Manu or even Crawford, who'd handle the ball a lot subbing in. The system was free lancing and did not work on variations and perfections of PnR Harden/Lin could run very well with Dwight/Asik. They were relying on too much simple screen and ISOs, which can be easily defended in the POs. From Lin, they just hoped he'd be a good soldier with no ego and occasionally use his talent to contribute some, yet without giving him chance (i.e. sufficient ball handling duties) to be an integral part of the offense. Well, McHale has no integral offense other than free lancing.
     
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    BOF!!!!
     

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