Texas vs. California: what happens when liberals are in charge

I agree to the extent that per-capita income is a silly stat in general. Wealth is neither created nor distributed in that way (unless you're a communist), so "per-capita income" only exists to be the result of a math operation. It provides no new knowledge.

Certain people like to embellish their points of strength, minimize their positions shortcomings, and pass it off as profound commentary or "truth". I wanted to cull that behavior before it became acceptable.

 

People are fleeing California in droves.

 

There is a BIG difference between the highly skilled asians moving to silicon valley in Cali and the poor mexican immigrants who just want a steady labor job coming to Tx. You need to look at it a little deeper...

 

This is exactly what the federal government is supposed to regulate with their authority in the interstate commerce clause. They're supposed to be creating laws to ensure that states aren't making laws to put themselves at a competative advantage relative to other states. Unfortunately, they're doing exactly the opposite.

 

toyota is moving 3,000 jobs from california to texas and it has nothing to do with any liberals in charge of anything.

 

If you had to make a choice between Cali and Texas with no other option available, you obviously choose the one that doesn't teach Creationism in school and elect bigots for governors.

 

Born and raised in Texas and i've never been taught creationism in my life. I went to public school.

 

No but to be fair Apple, Oracle, Facebook and Google ALL have built significant offices here. Having said that, companies will move for all sorts of reasons. Some will flee regulation, or taxes, or seek new pools of labor. Of lot of Texas's economic success has been the rebound of energy. Many of the companies that coming from Cali are coming to seek new pools of labor. I know that's true of Google, Facebook, Apple and a lot of companies I work with. Lower cost of living, more space and resources don't hurt. Low taxes and low regulation also are appealing to corporations, but it is dubious to say companies wouldn't be coming regardless, and it's certainly worth pointing out that lack of regulations is dangerous.

 

If we are talking about liberals in charge versus conservatives in charge let's consider Minnesota versus Wisconsin. The two states are right next to each other, close in size, almost identical in population makeup and climate but MN is dominated by Democrats with very liberal Mark Dayton as Governor and WI dominated by Republicans with very conservative Scott Walker.

http://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-...onsin-vs-daytons-minnesota-which-doing-better

Scott Walker's Wisconsin vs. Dayton's Minnesota: Which is doing better?

Three years ago, Minnesota elected a DFL governor (Mark Dayton) whose slogan was "tax the rich," and in 2012 it gave his DFL party control of the Legislature. Three years ago, Wisconsin elected a Republican governor (Scott Walker) with a Republican Legislature pledged to implement the anti-tax, anti-union, least-government approach that 21st century conservatism says is the best way to produce jobs and economic growth and the greatest good for the great number.

In a must-read op-ed in Sunday's New York Times, University of Minnesota political scientist Larry Jacobs stepped back to see which approach was getting better results so far.

It isn't even close. Minnesota is growing and thriving far more than Wisconsin:

Three years into Mr. Walker’s term, Wisconsin lags behind Minnesota in job creation and economic growth. As a candidate, Mr. Walker promised to produce 250,000 private-sector jobs in his first term, but a year before the next election that number is less than 90,000. Wisconsin ranks 34th for job growth....

Along with California, Minnesota is the fifth fastest growing state economy, with private-sector job growth exceeding pre-recession levels. Forbes rates Minnesota as the eighth best state for business....

The lion’s share of Minnesota’s new tax revenue was sunk into human capital. While the state’s Constitution required that half of the new revenue balance the budget in 2013, Mr. Dayton invested 71 percent of the remaining funds in K-12 schools and higher education as well as a pair of firsts: all-day kindergarten and wider access to early childhood education. Minnesota was one of the few states that raised education spending under the cloud of the Great Recession.

By contrast, Mr. Walker’s strategy limited Wisconsin’s ability to invest in infrastructure that would have catalyzed private-sector expansion, and he cut state funding of K-12 schools by more than 15 percent. Per student, this was the seventh sharpest decline in the country.

Health care presents another difference. When Mr. Walker refused to establish a state health insurance exchange or to expand Medicaid...

Mr. Dayton is on course to improve Minnesota’s already low uninsured rate. He expanded Medicaid to cover an additional 35,000 people and accepted Washington’s offer to pick up the cost — as half the states, including a growing number with Republican governors, have. Mr. Dayton also created a state insurance exchange, which enrolled more than 90 percent of its first month’s target.

 

Nice article.

 

CA also has a lot of poor Mexican immigrants coming to work in the agriculture, construction and service sectors.

 

yeah but it's a lot smaller % of their immigrants where those are nearly 100% of Texas' immigrants.

 

You guys are dumb for thinking that it's the "liberals" OR "conservatives" that are the reason individual states are thriving or not. Both parties are equally delusional in this two party ****show we have in this country.

 

Oh, I see... So you are against a certain kind of immigrants?

The majority of immigrants to CA are Latinos.

The majority of California’s immigrants were born in Latin America (53%).

Asia is the second largest population of immigrants at 37% percent.
http://www.ppic.org/main/publication_show.asp?i=258

 

Liberals are trying to paint Wisconsin as the quintessential conservative state.

I see what they're doing.

 

Texas will continue to boom as long as we continue to dole out tens of millions in taxpayer dollars to pay them to come here. That doesn't even take into account any corporate and sales tax rebates the Comptroller decides to give them.

 

Of course an idiot like you would try and make it out that somehow me saying that the majority of Texas' immigrants are poor laborers from Mexico correlates to me saying "I'm against them." I love the hispanics in Texas. They are a big part of our culture and help make Texas what it is. But the fact is, the vast majority of our hispanic immigrants don't pay health insurance. There's nothing wrong with that, they really don't want to. I know you'd love to scream racism like a typical delusional liberal but thats not the case, these are just facts.

P.S i'm not a conservative at all. I use to be liberal but fools like you that represent the party pushed me towards the middle.

 

Well, you've apparently got some liberal stereotype in your head and are just applying whatever you think that is, to me rather than actually just discussing the issue.

I'm a liberal, and never wanted to scream racism against you, but if it makes you better to attach that to me then go ahead and do it.

You mentioned about immigrants not paying for health insurance. (If I was wrong as not seeing that as a negative comment against them, then I apologize. It seemed like it was). When I mentioned the heavy immigrant population in CA, you then distinguished Asian immigrants from Mexican ones, so I made the comment about it. If you think LA doesn't have a heavy Mexican immigrant population, perhaps you should spend some time here. I live here, and I can assure you there is a huge Mexican immigrant population in LA.

I'm not sure why I'm bothering to continue the discussion since you've made up your mind what I would like to do, and what think based on your own stereotype of liberals rather than what I'm actually talking about.

But you can keep on calling me an idiot all you'd like. LOL.