First of all, I'm not purposefully being coy. I really do need to protect this info or it'd cause a an all-out s-storm. Also, nothing was explicitly stated. I'm drawing some fairly easy conclusions based on some fairly obvious context. For example: Why do I think they're going to trade the pick? Go look at those pictures I posted - has anyone checked McNair's itinerary next week........
how do you check mcnair's itinerary? so you're saying he's not going to be in NY? effing sweet.... trading this pick is the best course of action.
Saw the pics now. So you saying mcnair will not be there? Really. We'll I would say they have agreed to a trade than. Sports 610 stated that falcons won't trade with texans and since they broke the Schaub to raiders story I believe they have some good sources. That would leave the raiders or bills likely trade partners? I mean who else do you see trading? Maybe the Vikings
If this information is indeed true, I think that will be the end of my fandom for the Houston Texans. It was never extremely strong to begin with, but the front office, coaching and QB play has been nothing but disappointing since its inception. This would simply be the final straw. Its just my opinion and worth what you paid for it, but if they give up the chance to draft Manziel, they may regret that day for decades to come. I'm not projecting what kind of QB he will be in the NFL. Simply because nobody can accurately predict what kind of pro any player will make. However, when you have a chance to draft a once in a generation type of college talent like this who also happens to be from Texas and played for one of the top schools in the state, you have to do it. If...and granted, its a big if....but IF Manziel was as good in the pros as he has been in college, he could potentially help the Texans supplant the Cowboys as THE NFL franchise in Texas. How do you pass that up? Even if its a mistake, I'd rather my team swing for the fences than try to continuously hit singles and never score. One week to go... Or do we not remember the decision to not pursue Peyton because...ahem...we had our franchise QB.
LOL Bobby. I doubt anyone would shed tears over my losing Texans fanhood. But if the Texans do indeed blow this pick...AGAIN....it will be fun to point fingers and laugh at folks like you while you cry over how poorly this franchise and its QB's play.
I'm sorry but I'm tired of this sort of opinion. It shouldn't matter where a player was born or where he played his college ball. I get that people like manziel for other reasons. But I want a winning QB, I don't care where he comes from. He could play his college ball in Texas, Florida, or Asia for all I care. I want the texans to pick a QB based on the notion that they believe he will win in the pros, not because he played at A&M. So go ahead, jump ship if you're upset we don't take a Texas product. What matters is winning, and that can be accomplished regardless where a player is from, regardless the irrational urge of a fan base to select a local product. If you don't like the texans for not drafting an aggie, or a longhorn, or w/e...then cheer for those teams, but not the texans. The NFL may be an entertainment business to the casual fan, but it's about WINNING for the franchises and their fans. Real fans want to win. Not just root for local products. Now, I'm someone believes manziel is the best man to turn this team into a winner--I WONT ARGUE WITH THAT. His transition will obviously be hard, but wanting to take him based on his birthplace isn't just irrational--it's stupid.
It's funny though because IMO what you are advocating is having the Texans blow the pick. Sure he might end up better, but Manziel has the feeling of VY 2.0 to me. Most picks I could make my peace with, but I don't see a Manziel pick ending well.
Heisman trophy winner. Check Set SEC records for passing and rushing in a year. Check Played injured and able to bounce back. Check Showed up in big moments vs. big opponents. Check Won both bowl games despite having a sieve for a defense. Check Consistent improvement in throwing motion over past 24 months. Check Works with QB coaches in off season to improve. Check Had a great pro day. Check Wonderlich score in top percentiles. Check Roughly the same size as other successful NFL QBs (Tarkenton, Brees, Wilson). Check Showed poise as a player and teammate despite numerous off field distractions. Check Universally praised by both former teammates and coaches. Check Exactly what more could he have done to convince you of his ability, intelligence, poise and potential???
To be clear, jumping ship over a blown draft would only be a "final straw" reaction to the Texans ineptitude. You and I both know there are a multitude of reasons to be turned off by this franchise over the last 4 years or so.
Irrelevant when talking about the NFL Irrelevant when talking about the NFL Just irrelevant in general Irrelevant in the NFL Irrelevant in the NFL So get him a cookie. So does nearly all QB prospects So did every QB prospect other than Bridgewater and nearly every QB prospect every single year. That just means it's possible he could have success, it doesn't mean he will have success. Fitz had a much higher score. So he's roughly the size of a QB who retired before he was born, one of the greatest passers the league has ever seen, and a game manager in Seattle....not sure what you are trying to show here. He WAS the off field distraction. Get the kid another cookie He couldn't have, he is what he is, an amazing college QB just like VY and Tebow before him. Unfortunately his game won't translate to the NFL so unless he completely changes everything about how he plays the position, he'll be a bust.
I've mentioned the things that pro scouts and analysts describe when evaluating him. These are just things I made up in a vacumn. Irrelevant? Perhaps only to someone who is trying to find a reason to dislike a player when he can't find one. Ok Mr. pro scout....when evaluating whether someone is suited to play QB at the NFL level, what exactly IS relevant to you? I'm dying to hear this... Again, based upon WHAT exactly? Just a tingling sensation up your leg? Lets hear it.
Report: Falcons not interested in trading up to No. 1 for Clowney http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...interested-in-trading-up-to-no-1-for-clowney/ Posted by Mike Florio on May 1, 2014, 11:45 PM EDT The Texans have identified the player they’d like to take at the top of the draft, and G.M. Rick Smith said Thursday that the team may trade down to get him. That disclosure reinforces the idea that the Texans aren’t targeting defensive end Jadeveon Clowney, and that the Texans would trade down with a team that wants to spring up for Clowney. According to SportsRadio 610 in Houston, the team that intends to trade up to No. 1 isn’t the Atlanta Falcons. Not long ago, the Falcons were doing little to hide their interest in Clowney. And speculation had been mounting that the Falcons would trade up to No. 1 to get Clowney. For the Texans, the more feasible approach would be to take Clowney at No. 1, wait for a trade partner to take the guy the Texans really want (e.g., Johnny Manziel), and then pull an Eli Manning/Philip Rivers trade, 10 years later. By getting the word out that the Falcons don’t want Clowney, the Texans and the Falcons could be throwing dirt on the notion that the Texans will take Clowney and then trade him to the Falcons, if the Falcons can get Manziel. Absent that message, the Falcons could be susceptible to being leapfrogged by a team that wants Manziel. Which would keep the Falcons from getting Clowney, and the Texans from getting Manziel. So, basically, it still remains impossible to know what to believe at this point.
One guy says he'll stop watching if they don't take Manziel Another says he'll stop watching if they do take Manziel. Meh, whatever. :grin:
