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Benghazi: the coverup

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 3, 2012.

  1. Baba Booey

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    BAHAHAHAHAHA!

    You guys are killing me!
     
  2. GladiatoRowdy

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    Bullsh!t. Nixon ordered a robbery of a rival political party's offices, this administration passed on mistaken information given to them by the intelligence community before that information was confirmed to be mistaken days later.

    Straws, you're grasping at them.

    Dead horses, you're beating them.

    Laughter, you're causing us to direct at you.
     
  3. basso

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    nobody died in watergate.
     
  4. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    I wish you'd quit acting like you care about who died. You just care about scoring political points. No one is fooled.
     
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  5. mc mark

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    It's just eating him alive that after 6 years he can't find something to pin on the President.
     
  6. GladiatoRowdy

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    Nobody died when Rice went on the Sunday shows, either.
     
  7. basso

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Africom General on night of <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Benghazi&amp;src=hash">#Benghazi</a> attacks says military didn’t try and wasn’t ordered to save Americans <a href="http://t.co/DrdpHYQCx1">http://t.co/DrdpHYQCx1</a></p>&mdash; Eli Lake (@EliLake) <a href="https://twitter.com/EliLake/statuses/461895992796012545">May 1, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  8. basso

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    nobody except The Truth.
     
  9. CrazyDave

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    Keep $#@!'in that chicken!
     
  10. mc mark

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    speaking of truth


    GOP Report Acknowledges That The U.S. Military Couldn’t Have Changed Benghazi Outcome

    In a new report released on Tuesday, the House Armed Services Committee concludes that there was no way for the U.S. military to have responded in time to the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya to save the four Americans killed that night. In doing so, the report debunks entirely a right-wing myth that says the White House ordered the military not to intervene.
     
  11. ROXTXIA

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    Seriously, dude. Quoting the WSJ op-ed? They are just a liiiiiittle bit slanted to the right.

    Why don't I just go find a blog from The Village Voice to post as news?
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Trending on twitter: #endthecoverup
     
  13. JuanValdez

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    I believe it was a cover-up. It might have germinated as a fog of war thing, but by the time Rice was doing the television circuit, it's pretty obviously a cover-up to avoid a damaging issue in the re-election campaign.

    Does it matter? The comparison to watergate isn't appropriate. The cover-up there was because Nixon actually did something against the law. So far, there doesn't seem to be anything illegal here, only maybe a policy failure.

    But, it impacted an election; does that matter? The White House was definitely managing public perception, but were they do anything very different from what their opponents were doing? The White House wanted to make it look like it wasn't their fault, and republicans wanted it to look like it was. It still isn't at all clear to me, though, who has how much fault. How much does Clinton get for not anticipating the problem, how much goes to Stevens, how much goes to excessive budget cuts coming from the legislature? How realistic is it to say these various parties should have known better? But, everyone knows political campaigns aren't that nuanced; it's all about who is holding the bag. Are democrats more to blame for not wanting to take the bag than the republicans pushing it at them? The democrats used the organs of government to play their hand. Is that really objectionable or is that just the incumbency advantage in play? Partisans will adopt the simplistic answer and say it's unacceptable. Or else, the whole question is laughable. The truth is murkier, but for a politician to admit that is to cede the field.

    So, yes Basso, there's a cover-up. It's certainly not Obama's or Clinton's finest hour. For the sake of history, we should eventually excavate the whole 'scandal.' But, it's still just a political football. In that regard -- for informing my electoral choices in 2012, 2014, and 2016 -- I don't think the truth is going to help any.
     
  14. GladiatoRowdy

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    We have known this for a while, the military determined that it would be far too dangerous and would put Americans into harm's way when there was no chance of success.

    Perhaps you should read the House report, you know, the one created by Republicans which detailed what happened.
     
  15. GladiatoRowdy

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    Rice killed Paul Pierce!?!?!?!

    Who is playing for the Nets, then?
     
  16. Nook

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    Trending on twitter: #TwoInThePinkOneInTheStink
     
  17. mc mark

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    #endthecoverup #madness
     
  18. tallanvor

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    So you admit that the White House publicly blamed a citizen as the instigator for American deaths when they knew otherwise all to protect themselves from scrutiny from their constituents, yet think its not a big deal?
     
  19. Nook

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    The people "outraged" are the same mindless drones that were birthers, felt Clinton should resign and actually supported Palin.

    Every year or so they need something to be "outraged" about... they lost on "gays" and need SOMETHING to vent all their repressed anger.
     
  20. mc mark

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    ^^^

    Sometime I think they don't even know what they're mad about anymore.

    ODS
     

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