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[NBA Gossip] Donald Sterling Hates the Blacks, Including Magic

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by percicles, Apr 26, 2014.

  1. Awesome

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    He acted like it didnt matter at first

    On the same side some of them are probably scared to the core, because someone could just record them saying something and out them too...so im sure they're thinking abou themselves selfishly throughout the whole thing... the dirty ones at least.

    I think I've seen Mickey Arison speak out the most more than any other owner.
     
  2. justtxyank

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    What he said is obviously offensive, however, unless he has discriminated in some way as an NBA owner, then his beliefs on race aren't really relevant.

    The league can't kick him out for being racist.

    If players truly feel that he is a racist jerk that should be punished, then don't sign there as a free agent.
     
  3. Awesome

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    I guess you don't know about anything this guy has done in the past have you?
     
  4. justtxyank

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    Yes I do. He's obviously a dirt bag, but the NBA already knew about those things.

    I'm not defending the guy at all, but you can't have something you own taken away from you just because we don't like the way you think or the things you say. Particularly things you said in a conversation where you had the expectation of privacy.

    If he has done something as an NBA owner to discriminate in his workforce, then use that against him to oust him. The NBA has never done that and none of the owners have made a stink about him before.
     
  5. Awesome

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    We dont know yet. We dont know what the NBA bylaws are and what can be amended.

    Losing sponsorships don't help either, and because of his past he has a history counting against him now.

    The owners if they really wanted to could probably vote him out just like other associations boards can boot a CEO from a business.
     
  6. justtxyank

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    We know they can't take your team away. They can fine him $1 million (which they certainly will.) Beyond that they can't legally just take his team because they don't like him. There are owners of plenty of sports teams that the leagues have wanted out.

    Losing sponsorships isn't cause to have your team taken away either.

    They cannot vote him out. They can make his life very difficult and try to force him out (which I'm sure they will now) but they can't simply meet tomorrow and take his team away from him.

    Also, these comments are offensive, but are not nearly as bad as things he has allegedly done/said in the past. This basically boils down to him not wanting to deal with his racist circle of friends judging him because his girlfriend hangs out with black guys. His other comments in the past seem much worse to me.
     
  7. B-Bob

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    Awesome,
    I think some of these threads would be higher quality if you didn't go around wanting to make everyone think and feel exactly like you think and feel.

    Everyone is horrified by Sterling, period. There are many legitimate opinions about the issue from there, including public/private issues, how to properly punish a legal (private) statement, owner/employee issues, etc, etc.

    My money is still that Sterling will be out as majority owner by the start of next season. For one, the pulling of sponsorship is going to make the writing on the wall very clear to the dude's wallet. He could get a *great* offer from Seattle and satisfy himself by feeling like he screwed over the players and fans in LA who criticized him.

    The more I think about, the more Seattle becomes viable. Or maybe the league gets very very involved in any sale at this point. will be fascinating to watch.
     
  8. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The NBA will hold a press conference tomorrow to make an announcement about its investigation involving Clippers owner Donald Sterling (1/2)</p>&mdash; NBA (@NBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/NBA/statuses/460815592673783808">April 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Additional details will be announced. (2/2)</p>&mdash; NBA (@NBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/NBA/statuses/460815672663371777">April 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  9. Awesome

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    Im not trying to get anyone to think like me, lets be clear.

    Secondly I already know they cant just take a business from someone but we dont know what "the nba has broad powers" mean do we?

    If he's causing the league to lose customers and money because of this then im sure it can be a very compelling case against him, especially with his past...thats all im saying. One thing in life i've learned is to never say never
     
  10. mtbrays

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    As much as I wish this were true, I don't see it happening. The Clippers are succeeding in the second-largest media market in the country and play in Staples Center, which doesn't justify the league's favored reason for relocation. I remember David Geffen tried to buy the team from Sterling in 2010, only to have Sterling refuse to sell. In hindsight, Sterling stands make a few hundred million more dollars by refusing to sell then.

    Then again, this is all uncharted territory. The more you read about Sterling's history, the more you have think the NBA would've been fine with him being the "crazy uncle," rotting away forever until Stern suddenly allowed him to become relevant with the Paul trade.
     
  11. torocan

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    The Team is Sterling's property. The right to play as a team in the NBA is NOT his property. The NBA ultimately decides who can remain as a franchise member of the NBA. The only question is the provisions provided in the NBA Bylaws.

    Folks can complain about forcing Sterling to sell isn't right, would you feel better if the NBA said,

    "Sterling owns the team, however we are terminating his franchise agreement. The Clippers are no longer a member of the NBA, and no games will be scheduled for the Clippers in seasons going forward. We are no longer holding the players to their NBA contract requirements. Sterling is free to keep playing them in scrimmages at the Staples center for his own personal entertainment."

    Congrats Sterling, you now own a professional basketball team that's not a part of a professional sports league.

    However, that's not going to happen. It's either going to be Sterling owns a NBA franchise, or he doesn't.
     
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    What do you guys think is going to happen?
     
  13. Nook

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    This is the rub of the situation.

    The NBA has wanted him out for decades.
    He has a son that shot and killed a friend, that was allegedly covered up when Sterling got involved.

    That same son died of a drug overdose.
    Sterling has been investigated and sued for numerous illegal acts.

    He is an outward racist.

    He openly discusses his use of prostitutes.

    He has used his team as a way to take advantage of the profit sharing structure of the NBA.

    Yet..... he is still the owner of the Clippers, because he hasn't broken any rules.... and the NBA cannot force him to sell his team. The NBA will try and try to get rid of him, like they have in the past, but Sterling is stubborn and is unlikely to give it up.
     
  14. justtxyank

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    I highly, highly doubt that the NBA owners are stupid enough to terminate a franchise agreement (or use contraction) to get rid of Sterling over his racist beliefs. That's an awful precedent. There are plenty of owners who do all kinds of stupid, offensive things. None of them wants to setup the idea that being a jerk/scumbag can cost you your team.

    Also, Sterling is seemingly a scumbag of a human being, but some of these people who are attacking him need to look in the mirror. Why is it OK for athletes to have a place in the league when they've committed rape, participated in criminal enterprises, killed people while drunk driving, beaten up women, thrown basketballs in the faces of a fan, gone into stands to assault people, etc. but not if they are a racist? Racism is bad, but why is that the one sin that should bring about a nuclear option in terms of punishment? Why didn't Ruben Patterson get banned from the NBA? Would Shaq or Charles Barkley have voted to kick him out of the NBA? Oh, sure he raped a woman but at least he wasn't racist!

    Note: None of this meant to defend Sterling. If the NBA can pressure him out, that's great.
     
  15. mtbrays

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    I think they'll announce that he's banned from attending all further games and won't be allowed at team facilities. I don't see a sale lined up in this short amount of time (unless Chris Hansen called with a $1 billion+ godfather offer to save the league more PR disgrace).
     
  16. Houstunna

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    Horrible, but not surprised. Wouldn't be surprised if other owners shared Sterling's sentiments.
     
  17. justtxyank

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    He'll be fined $1million (maximum allowed) as well. I hope they do ban him from the games. Probably an indefinite suspension. There will be public pressure to oust him.
     
  18. Houstunna

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    Radio show said Sterling isn't safe on the streets.. lol.
     
  19. justtxyank

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    Racism=bad

    Violence=good

    Donald Sterling is lucky he's not a woman. He could get assaulted and no one in the NBA would bat an eye.
     
  20. ubigred

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    ^^^

    This is a whole different animal.
     

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